So if the vaccines are so crappy why hasn’t Hawaii been ravaged by Covid these last 12 months as millions of Covid infected mainlanders have travelled there and infected the low natural immunity Hawaiians?? And Florida and Arizona still have high levels of excess deaths these last 12 months even with their Republican governors essentially promoting natural immunity.
So if the vaccines are so crappy why hasn’t Hawaii been ravaged by Covid these last 12 months as millions of Covid infected mainlanders have travelled there and infected the low natural immunity Hawaiians?? And Florida and Arizona still have high levels of excess deaths these last 12 months even with their Republican governors essentially promoting natural immunity.
What you said about Florida is not true and just more BS & lies slandering Gov DeSantis and a Democrat talking point attempting to cover up it's massive failure of handling the Covid infections.
Florida kept its schools and businesses open and there was no mandatory laws that required the wearing of masks and yet Florida had the same mortality rates as other states in which the schools and businesses were closed and there was mandatory sheltering in place and wearing of masks and in some states mandatory Covid vaccinations.
Finally it comes out that the research that what we first heard from Dr. "flip-flop" Fauci, was that "wearing masks was useless" was true. Why?
Because of the mucus of breathing warm air in an out just creates a petri dish in which the Covid virus actually increases and grows in the warm
& wet environment of the mask unless you changed your mask every 20 minutes which most people do not do.
Governor DeSantis in Florida followed the research in Europe that showed that masks not only did not work, but sunshine was the best disinfectant and that is why he kept the schools and businesses open so people could travel around and breathe fresh air.
Whether or not you get Covid also depends on your immune system, smoking, obesity, and a number of other health factors in which the Florida health department researched and did not listen to the lies told by Dr Fauci and his toadies in the CDC... who by the way were linked into big Pharma making billions if not trillions of dollars of profit selling the Covid vaccines.
You are a liar and obviously a Democrat and know nothing about the statistics in Florida.
What Governor DeSantis also did was set up clinics in which anyone who contracted Covid were treated immediately with recombinant DNA treatments which the hostile Biden administration eventually shut down because they like to kill people Who were able to live longer and have better statistical results ruin the propaganda and the inconsequential and worthless methods used by the CDC such as 100% quarantine of businesses, schools and every human being on the planet that simply did not work.
The biggest and most obvious studies noted by the Swedes, Israel and other Europeans was that the Palestinians had the exactly the same infection and mortality rates as other countries although the Palestinians had practically zero individuals who were vaccinated for Covid. This was followed up by the same research and results in many African countries in which their populations were not vaccinated for Covid (simply because they did not have the money, or the personnel to buy, transport or immunized their populations.) And yet again their Covid mortality rates were the same as the more developed countries who vaccinated for Covid 95 to 100% of their populations.
So now let's hear your excuses about how Covid vaccinations work to prevent Covid infections! They certainly do not according to the European studies.
Let's add that assertions that no one had any immunity to covid are horseshit. General immunity to coronaviruses is formed by tcell and nk cells responses to functionally constrained proteins expressed through mhc receptors during infection. Since coronaviruses share homologous proteins that do not mutate frequently (n protein, RNA dependent RNA polymerase) if you got exposed to any coronaviruses in the past you have likely some general immune memory that would be recalled during covid infection. The mRNA transfections only code for the spike which is not functionally constrained and thus not the preferred targe of the immune system. Asserting that these products are what stop you from having a severe infection is baseless and not based on well known immunology.
The UK Challenge study https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-022-01780-9 showed that nearly half those exposed directly did not become infected. And the Princess cruise had elderly passengers who never became infected. We don't know if that mucosal ability was able to resist later variants. OTOH, routine mouth/nose sanitation (bleach, not quite) via salt water of simple iodine washes are protective to many.
You're right. Many people either have very robust but not overactive mucosal immunity or they just never got a sufficient viral load. I used rinses when I got covid but I got a whopping load so it wasnt enough. That said I do use the rinse now and then when I get a sniffle and that's all I've had since covid (over a year ago). The other thing that works well for those who get chest infections more easily is a nebulizer with some saline solution.
I use the "rinses" as routine every time I go into the public. Just like brushing my teeth. Don't allow replication to begin - knock on wood. How does one get a "whopping" load?
So the fever arrived after the virus was allowed to replicate for the 3-4 days and take over. Are you doing routine sanitation of mouth and nose? We all have some degree of mucosal protection so that nominal viral entry is managed well. That protection has a degree of limitation that gets aided by the sanitation steps, no matter how many pathogens arrive.
All things being equal a population’s % below poverty level determines its Covid death rate in America and so Florida could have a Covid death rate similar to North Carolina’s had DeSantis been more aggressive with masking. So Florida’s death rate is 404 per 100k and NC’s is 283 per 100k…so that’s around 20,000 people that died unnecessarily in Florida.
What primarily determines Covid death is age and obesity related issues. Florida ranked 13 th in population adjusted deaths despite having such a large population of elderly people. As someone that spent a great deal of time going between Michigan and Florida due to relocation I can tell you Florida had a much better outcome without the drama. Michigan was much more restrictive and had a much higher death rate when adjusted for population. This is the place 1000 people a day moved to, in many cases to get their kids in school and to live their lives with some sense of normalcy. They actually followed the data here as opposed to shouting slogans like follow the science
Maine has the oldest population and yet it has a relatively low Covid death rate. And during the Delta death surge the median age of death declined in Florida. Adjusting for age with respect to Covid is dumb because we literally transformed society to protect the elderly and then the vaccine became available. So Florida’s peak death days were months after the vaccines became available.
Yes I know Maine has the oldest population, however Florida has an order of magnitude number of people who due to age are in the highest risk category due to age. So there is really no comparison. If you have a huge number of people in their 80’s their risk profile is the same as a state with a higher mean age. Given that there are limits to the degree that people can be protected against a respiratory illness the age of those most vulnerable is not dumb ignoring it is. Florida had a pretty typical response to the vaccine most people got it. Much of the excess death came as a result of the Second variant. The vaccine was pretty useless against that variation and this it became the death of the vaccinated.
No Florida doesn’t. I looked it up a while ago and it is slightly higher in Florida and not a “magnitude” higher which you should know is ridiculous.
Btw, if I told you two states with around 20 million people each in which one had 93,000 nursing home patients and the other had 67,000 would you say that would be a significant factor with respect to Covid death rate??
We have reams of data in America and so looking at how other countries did is dumb. And we have excess deaths data in America which is the gold standard and so we can compare Covid deaths to excess deaths. Furthermore different states did different things and so we can compare data between different states. Which state do you believe should have the lowest excess deaths since March 2020??
The data in America is crap though and everyone knows it. Look to small countries in Europe if you want any close to accurate. You won’t like what you see…
Keep believing what the CDC, FDA, Fauxci & his cabal say NOW; bc it changes back & forth.
None of these so-called geniuses/experts saved one life. But I know personally many who were saved by doctors who upheld their Hippocratic Oaths as opposed to bowing to Big Pharma controlled messaging.
I also know two people who died bc of wrong treatments; delayed treatment in 1st place, then sedation & vent, Remdesivir which set in motion kidney damage (ultimately failure) & fluid in chest cavity. Neither should have died; each was denied Ivermectin. Families had doctor’s authorization but hospitals & hospitalists denied use.
If they had been home, I believe IVM would have saved them as it did others I know.
The so-called vaccines were being guarded for emergency use authorization. If hospitals & doctors had used any existing treatments that worked NO EUA’s would have been possible. Lots of deaths & blood in their hands for playing that game.
Masks cause one to breathe into his/her lungs body waste! Bacteria, viruses, carbon dioxide. And vastly restricts needed oxygen! We don’t eat our feces or drink our urine. So many of us didn’t want to breath any other bodily wastes.
Deprivation of oxygen in adults is bad enough but children!!!! Their developing brains NEED oxygen. Already teachers are seeing effects from such a stupid mandate. Many children will pay for years to come. Society too.
As for those experimental shots; I’ve lost 3 longtime friends who suddenly collapsed with “cardiac episodes.” None were candidates for the grave until......
Add the young athletes (& other young folks who aren’t in the news) who’ve died suddenly. One thing in common; experimental shots. Crimes against Humanity.
Florida’s death rate is 404 per 100k. Hawaii’s death rate is 130 per 100k. Berenson said there was nothing anyone could do about Covid and masking and vaccines simply delayed the inevitable…so if that were true Hawaii would have been ravaged by Covid the last 12 months as all of their mitigation measures would have merely delayed a Covid death surge.
Source please.. something better than Alex said.. interactive map shows California, Texas, New York & Florida all in the mega-death zones.. Hawaii as good as Africa w lots in between.. We knew from the Princess cruise even a ship of old foggies had few deaths & many not infected.. bad flu nothing more invisible enemy psyop.
Just look at death rates per state…if everything Berenson said was correct then Hawaii would be being ravaged by Covid right now because of low natural immunity and Omicron sweeping through its population as mainlanders visited the last 12 months. Berenson banned me because I pointed this out on a public post of his.
So if the vaccines are so crappy why hasn’t Hawaii been ravaged by Covid these last 12 months as millions of Covid infected mainlanders have travelled there and infected the low natural immunity Hawaiians?? And Florida and Arizona still have high levels of excess deaths these last 12 months even with their Republican governors essentially promoting natural immunity.
What you said about Florida is not true and just more BS & lies slandering Gov DeSantis and a Democrat talking point attempting to cover up it's massive failure of handling the Covid infections.
Florida kept its schools and businesses open and there was no mandatory laws that required the wearing of masks and yet Florida had the same mortality rates as other states in which the schools and businesses were closed and there was mandatory sheltering in place and wearing of masks and in some states mandatory Covid vaccinations.
Finally it comes out that the research that what we first heard from Dr. "flip-flop" Fauci, was that "wearing masks was useless" was true. Why?
Because of the mucus of breathing warm air in an out just creates a petri dish in which the Covid virus actually increases and grows in the warm
& wet environment of the mask unless you changed your mask every 20 minutes which most people do not do.
Governor DeSantis in Florida followed the research in Europe that showed that masks not only did not work, but sunshine was the best disinfectant and that is why he kept the schools and businesses open so people could travel around and breathe fresh air.
Whether or not you get Covid also depends on your immune system, smoking, obesity, and a number of other health factors in which the Florida health department researched and did not listen to the lies told by Dr Fauci and his toadies in the CDC... who by the way were linked into big Pharma making billions if not trillions of dollars of profit selling the Covid vaccines.
You are a liar and obviously a Democrat and know nothing about the statistics in Florida.
What Governor DeSantis also did was set up clinics in which anyone who contracted Covid were treated immediately with recombinant DNA treatments which the hostile Biden administration eventually shut down because they like to kill people Who were able to live longer and have better statistical results ruin the propaganda and the inconsequential and worthless methods used by the CDC such as 100% quarantine of businesses, schools and every human being on the planet that simply did not work.
The biggest and most obvious studies noted by the Swedes, Israel and other Europeans was that the Palestinians had the exactly the same infection and mortality rates as other countries although the Palestinians had practically zero individuals who were vaccinated for Covid. This was followed up by the same research and results in many African countries in which their populations were not vaccinated for Covid (simply because they did not have the money, or the personnel to buy, transport or immunized their populations.) And yet again their Covid mortality rates were the same as the more developed countries who vaccinated for Covid 95 to 100% of their populations.
So now let's hear your excuses about how Covid vaccinations work to prevent Covid infections! They certainly do not according to the European studies.
Let's add that assertions that no one had any immunity to covid are horseshit. General immunity to coronaviruses is formed by tcell and nk cells responses to functionally constrained proteins expressed through mhc receptors during infection. Since coronaviruses share homologous proteins that do not mutate frequently (n protein, RNA dependent RNA polymerase) if you got exposed to any coronaviruses in the past you have likely some general immune memory that would be recalled during covid infection. The mRNA transfections only code for the spike which is not functionally constrained and thus not the preferred targe of the immune system. Asserting that these products are what stop you from having a severe infection is baseless and not based on well known immunology.
The UK Challenge study https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-022-01780-9 showed that nearly half those exposed directly did not become infected. And the Princess cruise had elderly passengers who never became infected. We don't know if that mucosal ability was able to resist later variants. OTOH, routine mouth/nose sanitation (bleach, not quite) via salt water of simple iodine washes are protective to many.
You're right. Many people either have very robust but not overactive mucosal immunity or they just never got a sufficient viral load. I used rinses when I got covid but I got a whopping load so it wasnt enough. That said I do use the rinse now and then when I get a sniffle and that's all I've had since covid (over a year ago). The other thing that works well for those who get chest infections more easily is a nebulizer with some saline solution.
I use the "rinses" as routine every time I go into the public. Just like brushing my teeth. Don't allow replication to begin - knock on wood. How does one get a "whopping" load?
Haha a whopping load is when you go from completely fine to full blown fever and chest infection in a day with no cough or sniffles in-between.
So the fever arrived after the virus was allowed to replicate for the 3-4 days and take over. Are you doing routine sanitation of mouth and nose? We all have some degree of mucosal protection so that nominal viral entry is managed well. That protection has a degree of limitation that gets aided by the sanitation steps, no matter how many pathogens arrive.
Your grandmother already knew this stuff.
All things being equal a population’s % below poverty level determines its Covid death rate in America and so Florida could have a Covid death rate similar to North Carolina’s had DeSantis been more aggressive with masking. So Florida’s death rate is 404 per 100k and NC’s is 283 per 100k…so that’s around 20,000 people that died unnecessarily in Florida.
Ignore him Judy. He's a troll.
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The relationships between poverty level and covid death rate are EXACTLY those that have been cited by Gene Frenkel in the past.
There's no room for doubt- Pangolin Chow Mein is a Gene Frenkel alias.
What primarily determines Covid death is age and obesity related issues. Florida ranked 13 th in population adjusted deaths despite having such a large population of elderly people. As someone that spent a great deal of time going between Michigan and Florida due to relocation I can tell you Florida had a much better outcome without the drama. Michigan was much more restrictive and had a much higher death rate when adjusted for population. This is the place 1000 people a day moved to, in many cases to get their kids in school and to live their lives with some sense of normalcy. They actually followed the data here as opposed to shouting slogans like follow the science
Maine has the oldest population and yet it has a relatively low Covid death rate. And during the Delta death surge the median age of death declined in Florida. Adjusting for age with respect to Covid is dumb because we literally transformed society to protect the elderly and then the vaccine became available. So Florida’s peak death days were months after the vaccines became available.
Yes I know Maine has the oldest population, however Florida has an order of magnitude number of people who due to age are in the highest risk category due to age. So there is really no comparison. If you have a huge number of people in their 80’s their risk profile is the same as a state with a higher mean age. Given that there are limits to the degree that people can be protected against a respiratory illness the age of those most vulnerable is not dumb ignoring it is. Florida had a pretty typical response to the vaccine most people got it. Much of the excess death came as a result of the Second variant. The vaccine was pretty useless against that variation and this it became the death of the vaccinated.
No Florida doesn’t. I looked it up a while ago and it is slightly higher in Florida and not a “magnitude” higher which you should know is ridiculous.
Btw, if I told you two states with around 20 million people each in which one had 93,000 nursing home patients and the other had 67,000 would you say that would be a significant factor with respect to Covid death rate??
Then most of the world should have died
We have reams of data in America and so looking at how other countries did is dumb. And we have excess deaths data in America which is the gold standard and so we can compare Covid deaths to excess deaths. Furthermore different states did different things and so we can compare data between different states. Which state do you believe should have the lowest excess deaths since March 2020??
The data in America is crap though and everyone knows it. Look to small countries in Europe if you want any close to accurate. You won’t like what you see…
No it isn’t. We know how many people die every day.
Keep believing what the CDC, FDA, Fauxci & his cabal say NOW; bc it changes back & forth.
None of these so-called geniuses/experts saved one life. But I know personally many who were saved by doctors who upheld their Hippocratic Oaths as opposed to bowing to Big Pharma controlled messaging.
I also know two people who died bc of wrong treatments; delayed treatment in 1st place, then sedation & vent, Remdesivir which set in motion kidney damage (ultimately failure) & fluid in chest cavity. Neither should have died; each was denied Ivermectin. Families had doctor’s authorization but hospitals & hospitalists denied use.
If they had been home, I believe IVM would have saved them as it did others I know.
The so-called vaccines were being guarded for emergency use authorization. If hospitals & doctors had used any existing treatments that worked NO EUA’s would have been possible. Lots of deaths & blood in their hands for playing that game.
Masks cause one to breathe into his/her lungs body waste! Bacteria, viruses, carbon dioxide. And vastly restricts needed oxygen! We don’t eat our feces or drink our urine. So many of us didn’t want to breath any other bodily wastes.
Deprivation of oxygen in adults is bad enough but children!!!! Their developing brains NEED oxygen. Already teachers are seeing effects from such a stupid mandate. Many children will pay for years to come. Society too.
As for those experimental shots; I’ve lost 3 longtime friends who suddenly collapsed with “cardiac episodes.” None were candidates for the grave until......
Add the young athletes (& other young folks who aren’t in the news) who’ve died suddenly. One thing in common; experimental shots. Crimes against Humanity.
Ivermectin prescriptions peaked during the Florida Delta death surge because DeSantis made it accessible—it’s clearly ineffective.
What statistics support that claim? Link please; it's contrary for all the stats I've seen.
Florida’s death rate is 404 per 100k. Hawaii’s death rate is 130 per 100k. Berenson said there was nothing anyone could do about Covid and masking and vaccines simply delayed the inevitable…so if that were true Hawaii would have been ravaged by Covid the last 12 months as all of their mitigation measures would have merely delayed a Covid death surge.
Source please.. something better than Alex said.. interactive map shows California, Texas, New York & Florida all in the mega-death zones.. Hawaii as good as Africa w lots in between.. We knew from the Princess cruise even a ship of old foggies had few deaths & many not infected.. bad flu nothing more invisible enemy psyop.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/coronavirus-data/covid-deaths#active[]=36&chart_type=map
Just look at death rates per state…if everything Berenson said was correct then Hawaii would be being ravaged by Covid right now because of low natural immunity and Omicron sweeping through its population as mainlanders visited the last 12 months. Berenson banned me because I pointed this out on a public post of his.
Well he's an idiot barely different from erstwhile NYT presstitites.