Let's add that assertions that no one had any immunity to covid are horseshit. General immunity to coronaviruses is formed by tcell and nk cells responses to functionally constrained proteins expressed through mhc receptors during infection. Since coronaviruses share homologous proteins that do not mutate frequently (n protein, RNA depen…
Let's add that assertions that no one had any immunity to covid are horseshit. General immunity to coronaviruses is formed by tcell and nk cells responses to functionally constrained proteins expressed through mhc receptors during infection. Since coronaviruses share homologous proteins that do not mutate frequently (n protein, RNA dependent RNA polymerase) if you got exposed to any coronaviruses in the past you have likely some general immune memory that would be recalled during covid infection. The mRNA transfections only code for the spike which is not functionally constrained and thus not the preferred targe of the immune system. Asserting that these products are what stop you from having a severe infection is baseless and not based on well known immunology.
The UK Challenge study https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-022-01780-9 showed that nearly half those exposed directly did not become infected. And the Princess cruise had elderly passengers who never became infected. We don't know if that mucosal ability was able to resist later variants. OTOH, routine mouth/nose sanitation (bleach, not quite) via salt water of simple iodine washes are protective to many.
You're right. Many people either have very robust but not overactive mucosal immunity or they just never got a sufficient viral load. I used rinses when I got covid but I got a whopping load so it wasnt enough. That said I do use the rinse now and then when I get a sniffle and that's all I've had since covid (over a year ago). The other thing that works well for those who get chest infections more easily is a nebulizer with some saline solution.
I use the "rinses" as routine every time I go into the public. Just like brushing my teeth. Don't allow replication to begin - knock on wood. How does one get a "whopping" load?
So the fever arrived after the virus was allowed to replicate for the 3-4 days and take over. Are you doing routine sanitation of mouth and nose? We all have some degree of mucosal protection so that nominal viral entry is managed well. That protection has a degree of limitation that gets aided by the sanitation steps, no matter how many pathogens arrive.
Let's add that assertions that no one had any immunity to covid are horseshit. General immunity to coronaviruses is formed by tcell and nk cells responses to functionally constrained proteins expressed through mhc receptors during infection. Since coronaviruses share homologous proteins that do not mutate frequently (n protein, RNA dependent RNA polymerase) if you got exposed to any coronaviruses in the past you have likely some general immune memory that would be recalled during covid infection. The mRNA transfections only code for the spike which is not functionally constrained and thus not the preferred targe of the immune system. Asserting that these products are what stop you from having a severe infection is baseless and not based on well known immunology.
The UK Challenge study https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-022-01780-9 showed that nearly half those exposed directly did not become infected. And the Princess cruise had elderly passengers who never became infected. We don't know if that mucosal ability was able to resist later variants. OTOH, routine mouth/nose sanitation (bleach, not quite) via salt water of simple iodine washes are protective to many.
You're right. Many people either have very robust but not overactive mucosal immunity or they just never got a sufficient viral load. I used rinses when I got covid but I got a whopping load so it wasnt enough. That said I do use the rinse now and then when I get a sniffle and that's all I've had since covid (over a year ago). The other thing that works well for those who get chest infections more easily is a nebulizer with some saline solution.
I use the "rinses" as routine every time I go into the public. Just like brushing my teeth. Don't allow replication to begin - knock on wood. How does one get a "whopping" load?
Haha a whopping load is when you go from completely fine to full blown fever and chest infection in a day with no cough or sniffles in-between.
So the fever arrived after the virus was allowed to replicate for the 3-4 days and take over. Are you doing routine sanitation of mouth and nose? We all have some degree of mucosal protection so that nominal viral entry is managed well. That protection has a degree of limitation that gets aided by the sanitation steps, no matter how many pathogens arrive.
Your grandmother already knew this stuff.