Just to clear up a point of confusion, "In Camera" is Latin for "In a Chamber" and has nothing to do with the electronic device ... I had to look it up. People keep misinterpreting this to mean there will be some kind of public viewing or hearing of the documents.
TF descending on the Russia Collusion Hoax like a fog. We've been waiting for these ridiculous privilege claims to implode. It must be really bad for the Hillary Campaign, DNC and co. to all make such a desperate claim.
Thanks for the update technofog. The msm hasn’t said a peep for obvious reasons. Tragic. I hope this judge is just and rules with wisdom and not bias. Since the Mueller report some of us have been waiting for the whole enchilada story behind the “Russia, Russia, Russia” false narrative. I pray Durham is honest and forthright with all Americans and those who are guilty of planning this coup of an elected president justly have a ride to jail.
Thank you, TechnoFog! This "Hillary for America" lawyer, Mr. Trout, doesn't seem very smart... I've seen Marc Elias mentioned: is it possible that those 30 emails are incriminating also for Marc Elias, besides Sussmann and the HRC campaign?
2) I find interesting the mention “not for this trial” - “important for other investigations”. So we know there are other investigations ongoing... Who could be the targets of those "other investigations"?
So it doesn't end here..."The court asked whether Durham’s team would come back for the other 1,500 e-mails. They responded in the negative - with a curious “not for this trial” - and stated the court’s decision would be “important for other investigations.”" More to come and thanks again to Techno Fog.
This is rather intriguing; because they fought so hard to keep these emails secret the Judge himself now has to personally review them. If the information is damaging, now the Judge has seen that damning information up close and personal before he makes further rulings prior to and at trial. This could epically backfire on the HRC team.
What is Tyrrell, Joffe's lawyer saying about the 8 Joffe emails?
All sides and the judge seem to agree that Elias executed a valid Kovel engagement with PR expert Fusion with respect to his HFA and DNC clients, which at least in form creates privilege on those Perkins Coie communications (to the extent they are genuinely with respect to legal advice). While Sussmann, Elias's partner, had Joffe as a client, the fact that neither Sussmann nor Elias executed a Kovel engagement with Fusion for PR advice with respect to their rendering legal advice to Joffe (Algor asserts this), this is not fatal to Fusion/Joffe communications lacking privilege because Joffe expected they were privileged because of how Sussmann brought Fusion and Joffe together, implying that because Perkins Coie had hired Fusion for its PR expertise, that created Kovel privilege with respect to the Sussmann/Joffe client relationship as well. Tyrrell says that every communication between Joffe and Fusion (Seago) that did not involve Sussmann was nevertheless contemporaneously marked privileged by Joffe and Sussmann was copied. That would appear to be pretty strong evidence that client Joffe thought his communications with Fusion were privileged, although again if the communications are not in relation to legal advice that Joffe was seeking from Sussmann, privilege would not apply.
The language is irrelevant. The point is that Judge Cooper, appointed by Obama, is granting further access to the Clinton-related emails. I will accept this apparent victory with a forever watchful eye out for traitors to this great experiment.
Having read the full hearing transcript, I noticed that at least two of the opposition lawyers again leaned heavily on their complaints that Durham waited too long to raise the issue of documents withheld under a dubious claim of attorney-client privilege (or work-product immunity).
I was surprised that the government didn't provide a clear response --- or ANY response --- explaining why Durham waited until April 6 to file his Motion to Compel which raised this issue that the defense claims he should have raised months ago, if not during the grand jury investigation.
The recent Supplementation regarding the results of the FEC investigation would be the key to answering those arguments, I think, but that wasn't made clear during the hearing --- so I guess the government feels that it made its point with the Supplementation. Still, they might have at least mentioned it during the oral arguments.
Or, it might be that the explanation for the delay is intertwined with the testimony the government expects to get from Fusion GPS employ Seago, so maybe a response is somehow buried in that argument. But it's tough to tell, not knowing what she is expected to say in court.
I wouldn't predict how the judge will rule on actual disclosure of the withheld documents, other than that he'll probably rule that SOME of them will be disclosed --- giving a little to both sides in his ruling.
I remember when Barr was asked whether he believed that the Trump campaign was spied on and he answered "Yes" I yelled out...here was an AG who had followed the evidence from yourself, from Dan Bongino, Mark Levin, Tom Fitton...here was a man who was going to save America from the Marxist onslaught!!!
If you had such success in uncovering relevant information and Dan and the others could write books off the known collaboration with foreign spies...how come Barr followed the path of the gutless Washington swamp and what's to say Durham won't do the same?
Just to clear up a point of confusion, "In Camera" is Latin for "In a Chamber" and has nothing to do with the electronic device ... I had to look it up. People keep misinterpreting this to mean there will be some kind of public viewing or hearing of the documents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_camera
TF descending on the Russia Collusion Hoax like a fog. We've been waiting for these ridiculous privilege claims to implode. It must be really bad for the Hillary Campaign, DNC and co. to all make such a desperate claim.
Thank you Techno Fog from Mendocino CA
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Great Update Techno Fog
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Thanks for the update technofog. The msm hasn’t said a peep for obvious reasons. Tragic. I hope this judge is just and rules with wisdom and not bias. Since the Mueller report some of us have been waiting for the whole enchilada story behind the “Russia, Russia, Russia” false narrative. I pray Durham is honest and forthright with all Americans and those who are guilty of planning this coup of an elected president justly have a ride to jail.
TechNo_Fog of War! Brilliant! My main man Vern!
Seago’s professional and educational history are GIANT FLASHING SIGNALS!
TFTP (multiple meanings) CIA, SWIFT, SWIFTNET, ALFA and a bulk surveillance program.
It’s clearer and clearer with every drop of information.
This might give your readers some insight into Seago and what her role might be.
https://datasociety.net/library/data-civil-rights-technology-primer/
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Thank you, TechnoFog! This "Hillary for America" lawyer, Mr. Trout, doesn't seem very smart... I've seen Marc Elias mentioned: is it possible that those 30 emails are incriminating also for Marc Elias, besides Sussmann and the HRC campaign?
2) I find interesting the mention “not for this trial” - “important for other investigations”. So we know there are other investigations ongoing... Who could be the targets of those "other investigations"?
So it doesn't end here..."The court asked whether Durham’s team would come back for the other 1,500 e-mails. They responded in the negative - with a curious “not for this trial” - and stated the court’s decision would be “important for other investigations.”" More to come and thanks again to Techno Fog.
The trial of Sussmann is scheduled to begin in 10 days, on May 16, correct?
asking for a friend...
This is rather intriguing; because they fought so hard to keep these emails secret the Judge himself now has to personally review them. If the information is damaging, now the Judge has seen that damning information up close and personal before he makes further rulings prior to and at trial. This could epically backfire on the HRC team.
What is Tyrrell, Joffe's lawyer saying about the 8 Joffe emails?
All sides and the judge seem to agree that Elias executed a valid Kovel engagement with PR expert Fusion with respect to his HFA and DNC clients, which at least in form creates privilege on those Perkins Coie communications (to the extent they are genuinely with respect to legal advice). While Sussmann, Elias's partner, had Joffe as a client, the fact that neither Sussmann nor Elias executed a Kovel engagement with Fusion for PR advice with respect to their rendering legal advice to Joffe (Algor asserts this), this is not fatal to Fusion/Joffe communications lacking privilege because Joffe expected they were privileged because of how Sussmann brought Fusion and Joffe together, implying that because Perkins Coie had hired Fusion for its PR expertise, that created Kovel privilege with respect to the Sussmann/Joffe client relationship as well. Tyrrell says that every communication between Joffe and Fusion (Seago) that did not involve Sussmann was nevertheless contemporaneously marked privileged by Joffe and Sussmann was copied. That would appear to be pretty strong evidence that client Joffe thought his communications with Fusion were privileged, although again if the communications are not in relation to legal advice that Joffe was seeking from Sussmann, privilege would not apply.
What is your take on this argument?
The language is irrelevant. The point is that Judge Cooper, appointed by Obama, is granting further access to the Clinton-related emails. I will accept this apparent victory with a forever watchful eye out for traitors to this great experiment.
Having read the full hearing transcript, I noticed that at least two of the opposition lawyers again leaned heavily on their complaints that Durham waited too long to raise the issue of documents withheld under a dubious claim of attorney-client privilege (or work-product immunity).
I was surprised that the government didn't provide a clear response --- or ANY response --- explaining why Durham waited until April 6 to file his Motion to Compel which raised this issue that the defense claims he should have raised months ago, if not during the grand jury investigation.
The recent Supplementation regarding the results of the FEC investigation would be the key to answering those arguments, I think, but that wasn't made clear during the hearing --- so I guess the government feels that it made its point with the Supplementation. Still, they might have at least mentioned it during the oral arguments.
Or, it might be that the explanation for the delay is intertwined with the testimony the government expects to get from Fusion GPS employ Seago, so maybe a response is somehow buried in that argument. But it's tough to tell, not knowing what she is expected to say in court.
I wouldn't predict how the judge will rule on actual disclosure of the withheld documents, other than that he'll probably rule that SOME of them will be disclosed --- giving a little to both sides in his ruling.
I remember when Barr was asked whether he believed that the Trump campaign was spied on and he answered "Yes" I yelled out...here was an AG who had followed the evidence from yourself, from Dan Bongino, Mark Levin, Tom Fitton...here was a man who was going to save America from the Marxist onslaught!!!
If you had such success in uncovering relevant information and Dan and the others could write books off the known collaboration with foreign spies...how come Barr followed the path of the gutless Washington swamp and what's to say Durham won't do the same?
Even if any of these were actually privileged, can't the privilege be pierced due to the crime-fraud exception?