My initial thoughts after reading the NY Times article is this is a charge is being sought to run cover for Marc Elias of Perkins Coie and former FBI attorney James A. Baker ... who now runs Twitter's legal dept if things weren't already Orwellian enough. Michael Sussmann 'bamboozled' them.
I thought it was interesting that not just one writer, but 4 writers for the New York times went completely out of their way to purposely omit Crowdstike from the entire article. Even though we all know who they are talking about. Now, how long before we all find out the Atlantic Council is all tied to this too, just like with the Trump Ukraine debacle?
There's no ongoing Durham investigation. Well OK there is, but he's just killing time, he's not going to indict anybody. Well OK he probably is going to indict somebody, but it's just part of the cover up. I am loving how this game is played.
Yes, I was going to post that. He left this month to start his own firm. Maybe PC asked him to leave because he might be a legal liability to them considering all of the slap down sanctions he’s gotten in all of these voting court cases in the swing states. He keeps filing repeat court requests to delay the outcome of the cases.
It’s also possible that Elias became a legal liability for Perkins/Coie because he was interviewed by Durham and know there’s an indictment coming and Perkins kicked him to the curb because they got word of that. It makes them look bad.
Just my view as a non-American, but if Elias & Sussman and others at Perkins Coie essentially allowed the firm to be used as a DNC & Clinton Campaign information laundering outfit, I would imagine that Sussman and Elias are both in very hot water.
I highly doubt the indictment is just about Sussman lying to the FBI.
Remember all we know about this is from a NYT Times article, presumably leaked from Biden's DOJ. As the reporters at the NYT are caught up in the scandal, it's in their interests to portray the indictment in the least damaging terms possible.
Perkins Coie appears to be right in the middle of the entire scandal. It is connected to all the different components (DNC, Clinton campaign, FBI, DOJ, Crowdstrike, Fusion GPS, dodgy reporters) of the RussiaGate crime, as well as the so-called DNC hack.
Just my take, but I think Durham knows where the bullseye is and he is about to/already has hit it. He has taken his time to amass red hot evidence, but the key will be using it in a way that causes maximum impact.
Let’s hope so but I personally think they have waited this long and are going after a little fish in hopes it will al blow over and the swamp can remain the swamp 😞
Oh my God! I wonder if this is the same Michael Sussman who sued me on the behalf of someone I had never heard of in the state of New York. I live in Houston Texas. He got some New York judge to Grant a judgment and get my bank account tied up. Fortunately, my lawyer got a Texas judge to reverse that. If this is the same Michael Sussman, this guy is a low-life, scumbag.
matt taibbi coined the term 'bomb-holing' to name a pathway the media's and government's corruption goes unaddressed: just move on to the next crisis w/o reckoning that the last 'crisis' was complete nonsense. outside of the spotlight of the public's focus - its just a return to business as usual instead of being held accountable for wrongdoing.
i have to cynically agree with other posters here. this has gone on too long and durham seems to be an inside guy who will never hold those culpable accountable. horowitz's 17 errors & omissions, the larry nassar gymnasts affair, fake gov whitman plot, crossfire hurricane - what will it take for the citizens of this country to say enough is enough with the fbi and just disband it?
So, they’re saying Sussman brought in CrowdStrike but wasn’t CrowdStrike already providing services to the DNC? What exactly did they «bring in» CrowdStrike to do? Concoct a Cozy Bear Russian spy narrative and ship the evidence to the Ukraine?
I read that a liberal professor from NYU had herself and a group of students do ping searches between Trump Org and that bank in an effort to create a connection between them to add substance to this lie. So I believe this professor most likely was asked or hired by Susseman to do this. Funny how Comey accepted Crowdstrike as a forensic third party source. No 3rd party firm would have been qualified to do such investigations on government related computers unless they were certified by the government and Crowdstrike was not.
At best, this is a charade - designed to placate the right, and to prop up glue together the illusion of integrity. The evidence is irrelevant, and much of it has intentionally been overlooked. He's a leftist, therefore he will escape justice. Bet the farm.
After all this time and speculation, that's it?! What BS!
Every major USG institution is hopelessly corrupt. DC needs to be shut down for 5 years and things devolve back to States. Then a new Capital can be made but in a new city - like more centrally located Kansas. When are those in favor of a constitutional republic going to wake up and realise that the system is hopelessly broken and insist on a reboot?
Hey, look, someone who appears to believe that there's no corruption in state governments and that the way to save a constitutional republic is to conjure their own preferred remedies which have no support in the Constitution.
Fair point. However, State governments can be made more accountable and responsive to their constituents. My point about DC is that it can no longer be cleaned up and so must be cancelled. This can be done through Congress in a constitutional way. Or if Congress refuses to act there are other (admittedly longshot but) constitutional remedies.
Failing those, we will get increasingly dysfunctional until at some point there will be resistance and messy outcomes, in many cases bloody. Nobody wants that.
Or you can keep things polite and correct and then slide into police state status, which seems to be happening in Australia closely followed by Canada and maybe UK.
It is reasonable to suspect these crimes were not solely executed by one “maverick” and without the knowledge of high level Clinton campaign officials, including Hillary herself. Her behavior and responses to public questions at the time, the unofficial purging of “private” emails by State Department officials, the entire Clinton Foundation funded shadow apparatus, and her felonious handling of information categorized as “secret” form a pattern that indicates many others were in on the “win at all costs” campaign. Also, scurrilousness is her trademark when she is backed into a corner, and this one attorney was a good soldier to his Queen.
100%….<——- this. The Clinton’s were way too powerful and narcissistic to not be involved. Just like when she lost the Clinton foundation money dried up to nothing. That’s not a coincidence.
This is a head fake. Baker is already convicted of faking a document to make Carter Page look guilty of colluding with Russians. Now we are to rely on his "memory" of a statement during a conversation over 5 years ago,?? Are there any written notes or reports., Is there some independant evidence of this conversation? Is Sussman just being squeezed in a desperate attempt to "get something, anything" to justify his years of investigation. This circular firing squad of investigations is coming to a pretty sorry end. After all the fireworks and political posturing the powers that be have gotten what they wanted in crippling Trump and now it is time to fold the circus tents and move on. The actors and political operatives got what they wanted and the Deep Staters are all crawling back under their rocks without anyone of consequence being exposed or jailed. Chalk up another win for the D.C. pond scum.
My initial thoughts after reading the NY Times article is this is a charge is being sought to run cover for Marc Elias of Perkins Coie and former FBI attorney James A. Baker ... who now runs Twitter's legal dept if things weren't already Orwellian enough. Michael Sussmann 'bamboozled' them.
Definitely possible... NYT getting the scoops is interesting... believe they had the Danchenko and Clinesmith stories.
I thought it was interesting that not just one writer, but 4 writers for the New York times went completely out of their way to purposely omit Crowdstike from the entire article. Even though we all know who they are talking about. Now, how long before we all find out the Atlantic Council is all tied to this too, just like with the Trump Ukraine debacle?
There's no ongoing Durham investigation. Well OK there is, but he's just killing time, he's not going to indict anybody. Well OK he probably is going to indict somebody, but it's just part of the cover up. I am loving how this game is played.
Didn't Elias just leave Perkins Coie to start a new DNC friendly firm? I wonder why?
Very good observation…
Yes, I was going to post that. He left this month to start his own firm. Maybe PC asked him to leave because he might be a legal liability to them considering all of the slap down sanctions he’s gotten in all of these voting court cases in the swing states. He keeps filing repeat court requests to delay the outcome of the cases.
It’s also possible that Elias became a legal liability for Perkins/Coie because he was interviewed by Durham and know there’s an indictment coming and Perkins kicked him to the curb because they got word of that. It makes them look bad.
Just my view as a non-American, but if Elias & Sussman and others at Perkins Coie essentially allowed the firm to be used as a DNC & Clinton Campaign information laundering outfit, I would imagine that Sussman and Elias are both in very hot water.
I highly doubt the indictment is just about Sussman lying to the FBI.
Remember all we know about this is from a NYT Times article, presumably leaked from Biden's DOJ. As the reporters at the NYT are caught up in the scandal, it's in their interests to portray the indictment in the least damaging terms possible.
Perkins Coie appears to be right in the middle of the entire scandal. It is connected to all the different components (DNC, Clinton campaign, FBI, DOJ, Crowdstrike, Fusion GPS, dodgy reporters) of the RussiaGate crime, as well as the so-called DNC hack.
Just my take, but I think Durham knows where the bullseye is and he is about to/already has hit it. He has taken his time to amass red hot evidence, but the key will be using it in a way that causes maximum impact.
Let's see what happens.
I agree. Oftentimes, as I believe the case is here, low hanging fruit is picked in the hopes that they will be the easiest to flip on higher ups.
That's certainly what the Manhattan DA appears to be doing.
Let’s hope so but I personally think they have waited this long and are going after a little fish in hopes it will al blow over and the swamp can remain the swamp 😞
Isn’t that the way it always seems to go ? A good swift kick under the carpet and on to the next pile of Clinton.
Laying out to path to Clinton herself. Publicly. Nice.
Madam Secretary herself pushed the lie last October. She was lockstep with her friend Michael Sussman.
https://mobile.twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/793250312119263233
Me thinks they are all about to go down........pray.
Consider how many years you've been saying that. At some point you have to face reality - the left is above the law.
Oh my God! I wonder if this is the same Michael Sussman who sued me on the behalf of someone I had never heard of in the state of New York. I live in Houston Texas. He got some New York judge to Grant a judgment and get my bank account tied up. Fortunately, my lawyer got a Texas judge to reverse that. If this is the same Michael Sussman, this guy is a low-life, scumbag.
I don't know, of course, but it wouldn't be surprising to find out it is the same one. It certainly adds up.
thanks for following this story.
matt taibbi coined the term 'bomb-holing' to name a pathway the media's and government's corruption goes unaddressed: just move on to the next crisis w/o reckoning that the last 'crisis' was complete nonsense. outside of the spotlight of the public's focus - its just a return to business as usual instead of being held accountable for wrongdoing.
i have to cynically agree with other posters here. this has gone on too long and durham seems to be an inside guy who will never hold those culpable accountable. horowitz's 17 errors & omissions, the larry nassar gymnasts affair, fake gov whitman plot, crossfire hurricane - what will it take for the citizens of this country to say enough is enough with the fbi and just disband it?
how did i forget the gen michael flynn entrapment - there are many other recent examples to highlight, but i think the point is made...
Yeah, disband the police!
Who the hell is Techno Fog?
Someone you cared enough about to come to his Substack, read and comment about.
A nobody asks about a somebody. Makes sense.
Techno has connections.
Believe it when I see it . . .
So, they’re saying Sussman brought in CrowdStrike but wasn’t CrowdStrike already providing services to the DNC? What exactly did they «bring in» CrowdStrike to do? Concoct a Cozy Bear Russian spy narrative and ship the evidence to the Ukraine?
I read that a liberal professor from NYU had herself and a group of students do ping searches between Trump Org and that bank in an effort to create a connection between them to add substance to this lie. So I believe this professor most likely was asked or hired by Susseman to do this. Funny how Comey accepted Crowdstrike as a forensic third party source. No 3rd party firm would have been qualified to do such investigations on government related computers unless they were certified by the government and Crowdstrike was not.
At best, this is a charade - designed to placate the right, and to prop up glue together the illusion of integrity. The evidence is irrelevant, and much of it has intentionally been overlooked. He's a leftist, therefore he will escape justice. Bet the farm.
It’s about time!
Yeah, some obscure lawyer nobody's ever heard of while the traitors are laughing over champagne paid for by the tax payers.
This is just the deep state slapping us in the face and laughing.
After all this time and speculation, that's it?! What BS!
Every major USG institution is hopelessly corrupt. DC needs to be shut down for 5 years and things devolve back to States. Then a new Capital can be made but in a new city - like more centrally located Kansas. When are those in favor of a constitutional republic going to wake up and realise that the system is hopelessly broken and insist on a reboot?
Hey, look, someone who appears to believe that there's no corruption in state governments and that the way to save a constitutional republic is to conjure their own preferred remedies which have no support in the Constitution.
Fair point. However, State governments can be made more accountable and responsive to their constituents. My point about DC is that it can no longer be cleaned up and so must be cancelled. This can be done through Congress in a constitutional way. Or if Congress refuses to act there are other (admittedly longshot but) constitutional remedies.
Failing those, we will get increasingly dysfunctional until at some point there will be resistance and messy outcomes, in many cases bloody. Nobody wants that.
Or you can keep things polite and correct and then slide into police state status, which seems to be happening in Australia closely followed by Canada and maybe UK.
No easy answers.
It is reasonable to suspect these crimes were not solely executed by one “maverick” and without the knowledge of high level Clinton campaign officials, including Hillary herself. Her behavior and responses to public questions at the time, the unofficial purging of “private” emails by State Department officials, the entire Clinton Foundation funded shadow apparatus, and her felonious handling of information categorized as “secret” form a pattern that indicates many others were in on the “win at all costs” campaign. Also, scurrilousness is her trademark when she is backed into a corner, and this one attorney was a good soldier to his Queen.
100%….<——- this. The Clinton’s were way too powerful and narcissistic to not be involved. Just like when she lost the Clinton foundation money dried up to nothing. That’s not a coincidence.
This is a head fake. Baker is already convicted of faking a document to make Carter Page look guilty of colluding with Russians. Now we are to rely on his "memory" of a statement during a conversation over 5 years ago,?? Are there any written notes or reports., Is there some independant evidence of this conversation? Is Sussman just being squeezed in a desperate attempt to "get something, anything" to justify his years of investigation. This circular firing squad of investigations is coming to a pretty sorry end. After all the fireworks and political posturing the powers that be have gotten what they wanted in crippling Trump and now it is time to fold the circus tents and move on. The actors and political operatives got what they wanted and the Deep Staters are all crawling back under their rocks without anyone of consequence being exposed or jailed. Chalk up another win for the D.C. pond scum.
Today's news is so outdated, Durham might as well announce new bootlegging charges against Al Capone.