I surely hope I am wrong but the jury is tainted, DC is 95% democrat and are Hillary supporters, This makes Durham’s job extremely difficult convincing biased jurors to deliver a guilty verdict even though the facts prove otherwise. My question now, does all this new info initiate having Hillary testify before a Grand Jury?
I agree, but Brian Cates reminded us that Durham never wastes his time - he will not bring a trial unless he's confident of the outcome. If the evidence is so damning and the jury doesn't do their job, that would be evidence of a bigger crime.
While I share your confidence in Durham (at the very lest his reputation), remember the Roger Stone show trial? The jury forewoman was not only a Clinton supporter but a fundraiser as well. No one seemed to have a problem with that naked conflict of interest.
Well, it looks like Durham is undercharging. Dozens of references to Conspiracy, but no Conspiracy or obstruction of justice charges. And other liars let off the hook.
Cates is a lying fool. He had us believe for 2 years that Rod Rosenstein was a white hat and it all fell flat. Rod was duped just like the other fools. He could have shut this down once he saw the evidence but was afraid of Democrat Senators. Pathetic and worthless leader.
I might be happier if I could say I never read ANY of those idiot posts. I made a bigger mistake and checked out his (LOL) "newsletter" which looks more like plagerism from msLSD. PURE TROLL
For Durham this case is not that important. What was important is bringing the fire to Hillary Clinton, and he succeeded. Mook did throw Obama under the bus. And I hope it's enough to enable Durham in flipping Clinton on Obama
"flipping Clinton on Obama" - Not sure what you might mean. The two are already wary enemies. Clinton was forced on Obama and he has done his best to clamp down on her. But Obama is a believer while the Clinton's are ordinary money crooks. Obama is handed money for his favors. Clinton must take. Both will eventually reach too far.
It's the Obama government who knew early onTrump would win, and created a plan that was supposed to take out the entire Trump team in 1 go.
The alfa bank story was only 1 part of the plan. Because all the different elements from this plan came from several sources and not straight from the white house , thus they thought to get away with it.
The question is if hillary knew the entire plan, or only this part of the plan she carried out, because she will now take the sword For Obama.
Mook cooperated early on with Obama and visited him in the White house. So it's not that far fetched to think Mook his testimony was to protect Obama and put the put the blame on hillary.
The difference is next, if Hillary takes the sword it stays with a political dirty trick.
If it was Obama, you are watching at a full blown coup attempt that is including fbi, ciq,nsa members from congress, state department and the brooks Institute.
The only thing that Durham still needs to interrogate is a spook who was placed inside a data assesment centre.
But hillary has now a problem. And if Durham turnes her on Obama it's going to be popcorn time
Democrats maybe at war with eachother. But their hate for Trump is do big they will work together.
I'm not sure if HRC will ever see justice but Obama was more than happy to see her get hurt. Not sure he wanted Trump but he likely figured Trump would do himself in. And now Obama has his front man, pity it's not working out so well. Ron Klain has pushed bad policy in the transformation that will be costly. Klain has always created a good party path not sure why he has become so mixed up.
I doubt that Michelle irrespective of her popularity will become a politician. I suspect there are some secrets behind her that would see daylight. But I really don't know. Perhaps she simply relishes celebrity without the attacks.
Mook is drawing a distinction between disclosure to the media and the FBI....the former was approved and they had a media strategy, the latter wasn't approved. Therefore, Mook just gave any Clinton sympathetic juror an out to not convict Sussman, to wit: Sussman was not authorized by the campaign to disclose it to FBI, therefore he acted outside his agency for the campaign and is de facto acting on his own (i.e., not for the campaign). Of course we know this is form over substance, but that's what they are going to argue.
Unless Durham has more testimony or documents showing the campaign or someone authorized on behalf of the campaign knew Sussman was reaching out to the FBI, then a vulnerable/sympathetic juror will find reasonable doubt. Durham has block billing for Sussman but he needs more.
You know I remembered that name Robby Mook.. and then when I heard he agreed that Killary pulled the trigger on the disinformation about Trump.. and D N TRIPLE C.. DNCCC is that what Pelosi called it.. and then as I listened to all this what Huma Abadin, Hillary's "aide" and co conspirator .. on the "other tainted" Laptop: Anthony Weiner, now in rehab, I asked myself: Which thread to pull? There are so many. Durham is doing an amazing job of unraveling this Gordian Knot. I find it for more than troubling that the jury has been seeded by Hillary's minions in DC. I could write more .. excellent work: Techno. I did share to Facebook. finally catching up. sort of.
It would be helpful if the media was reporting on this important case. If that was true, even if a tainted jury found Sussman innocent, everyone besides the most demented WOKE would know the truth, ala the O.J. Simpson trial.
The media would just spin it, make excuses, and otherwise dismiss the facts as they have been doing for the past 10 or more years. The most demented WOKE are too brainwashed to know anything, except that their goal is a Marxist utopia which is what they are coded to believe.
It would be helpful if the media did lots of things ... but we know what they are. They're much more than simply 'left-leaning' (as many of my friends grudgingly admit) ... they're active partisans who curate the news (what to report on, what to ignore) and (frankly) lie in order to achieve their broader political goals.
They're hopeless ... a drip-drip-drip trial with convictions and more indictments is the only (slim) hope we have to inform the normies.
Heck, Musk himself hadn't heard of 'Sussman' until just last month ... how long have we known about it?
I agree ... unless he believes that: 1) the case is too strong not to get a conviction, and 2) he needed to bring evidence into a DC court, with DC jurors, and a DC judge.
Anywhere else would have been too easy to ignore the result, or the evidence.
The point of the alpha bank investigation or any of the charges against Trump were to provide salatious stories for the media to repeat to the public, which the dutifully did, as part of tge anti Trump conspiracy.
"Q: In the Summer of 2016, was Mr. Trump’s relationship with Russia something that the campaign focused on?
A: Yes. I mean, it was frankly something we were focused on before that time. But absolutely."
Keywords: "focused on BEFORE that time"
Connecting the dots, the larger conspiracy apparently dates back to April, 2016, when ALLEGEDLY-hacked DNC documents found their way onto the Internet, and eventually to Wikileaks. Instead of the FBI exercising its legal responsibility to conduct a forensic examination of the ALLEGEDLY-hacked server in relation to this ALLEGED criminal hacking and supposed national-security threat, the FBI mysteriously outsourced its investigative authority and allowed the DNC to hire a private entity --- CrowdStrike --- to conduct this criminal/national security investigation.
That is the FIRST criminal case I've ever heard of where law enforcement authorities allowed the ALLEGED victim to use their own hireling in place of government law enforcement in determining who the ALLEGED perpetrator of the crime was. What a convenience it was for the DNC to be allowed to claim it had been hack, hire the "experts" to confirm the hack, and pin the blame on the ALLEGED hacker --- Russia --- all without assistance or intervention by law enforcement authorities.
In other words, the DNC claimed to have been hacked (as opposed to one of its own rogue employees gaining access to the documents and releasing them). and then had its own hired firm pin the alleged hack on Russia --- and everyone --- democrat and republican alike --- just fell in line and accepted that new PRIVATIZATION of law enforcement and national security investigation as if it were standard procedure.
And this "coincidentally" happened concurrently with Hillary's people formulating the Russia-Collusion HOAX in all of its varied aspects. When you consider the fact that tying Trump to Russia wouldn't be especially damaging UNLESS Russia was first painted as the bad guy, it makes sense that framing Russia for an ALLEGED hack that has never been substantiated to have even occurred would be the logical first step for the Russia-Collusion Hoax.
It was a fairly long time ago now, and it also helps to remember that at the time, Hillary and the DNC were synonymous, because Hillary had obtained full financial control of the DNC heading into the campaign. So the ALLEGED hacking of the DNC was viewed as an attack on Hillary. Therefore the timeline was that first democrats accused Russia of attacking the DNC/Hillary, and then Russia began colluding with Trump. The second part of the scheme has now been fully debunked, but nobody seems to be willing to correlate that fraud with the still-unproven hack of the DNC.
And ever since April, 2016, Democrats have methodically pushed the US farther and farther into an adversarial relationship with Russia --- and ultimately the ongoing proxy war in Ukraine against a country that had previously been a partner in space with the International Space Station, and a partner in the war on terror, as demonstrated by Russia having warned the US about the Boston Marathon bombers, even though the Obama FBI chose to ignore the warning.
So in summary: Never forget about the ALLEGED hacking of the DNC that was never investigated by the FBI and that everyone just accepted as having happened because the DNC said it happened, and that that occurred simultaneously with the hatching of Hillary's Russia-Collusion Hoax that included the crime(s) currently being prosecuted.
Don’t forget, the investigation into the hack of the server occurred when Perkins Coie and Marc Elias hired Crowdstrike.
Crowdstrike was just another contractor like Fusion GPS to provide false information to Perkins Coie which they would then distribute on behalf of the campaign. Remember, in congressional testimony, even Crowdstrike admitted that they could not definitively prove that Russia hacked the DNC server, there were merely indications.
At at this point we know the Ukrainian company Crowdstrike was reflexively anti-Russian and was motivated to go along with the Perkins Coie effort to smear Russia with hacking allegations
The indications that Russia hacked the server are just as false and manufactured — via Perkins+contractor — as the indications that Trump/Russia had a connection through Alfa Bank.
The claim that Papadopoulos reported that the Russians had emails from Hillary was also manufactured. Halper and Downer and others were in on the set up.
Lastly, in the Michael Flynn trial, the DOJ finally admitted that the investigation into Flynn was not properly predicated. None of this was properly predicated.
Every inch of this was a set up orchestrated by the Clinton campaign. And facilitated by elements in the DOJ, FBI, CIA and foreign intelligence agencies.
There’s absolutely no indication that any aspect of the investigation into Trump and Russia arose spontaneously — without a planted and manufactured predicate, and the only person motivated to do that was the Clinton campaign — and her sympathizers in government or more than happy to go along.
There was an idiot on these pages here I’m previous threads trying to claim that cross fire hurricane proceeded the alpha bank allegations. While chronologically that is true, they all arose from the same source.
Perkins Coie was in the middle of what happened with the DNC hack, with the allegation the members of the Trump campaign had access to emails from Hillary through Russia
The whole effort was a preemptive effort to cover the campaign’s concern that other people had her deleted emails from her server, With the added benefit of smearing Trump
Even IF the whole Mifsud / Pittella, Arvendir Sambei plot to Sabotage & Honeypot trap George Papadopoulos was a internally conspired "Gift" from "Euro friends of Hillary" (and not directly coordinated by Brennan or Comey), the Downer tip sprang from the same poisonous well of Clinton Inc.
It was FusionGPS, Steele's "Russia Russia" mongering in the media that prompted Downer to make a "Trump/Russia?" connection in his mind & contact the FBI.
Hillary! Quit drinking and get off this thread! You’re a worse liar here than you were on the campaign. Operating as a troll though is consistent with your hideous looks. We know when you say bush, you mean bush licker. Stop being so obvious, it’s unbecoming!
Somehow that the DNC refused to allow the FBI access to the servers and the unredacted Crowdstrike report remains an odd item. Wrong from the start and even Trump was not able to tease anything out. Have no idea who might tell him Ukraine had anything to do with the server or the leak. Manafort might know.
Understand. But Trump was pressing Zelenskyy to reveal the Burisma stuff. The same oligarch that owns Zelenskyy, Kolomoysky, also is involved or owns Burisma if Kanekoa is right https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/how-one-ukrainian-billionaire-funded?s=w. Zelenskyy had to play along with Trump but an entire story remains muddy. Manafort was an opposing figure to Kolomoysky so might have whispered something to Trump. The alignment of the DNC, Crowdstrike and the current Ukrainian government is also muddy.
Yes it can appear to be muddy but if you're really paying attention. It's actually crystal clear.
Victoria nuland is the main driver. Vindman and others are also centrally involved. You're correct on the oligarchs. And Burisma is central to the story. Jankowitz is part of the Story too.
Crowdstrike was in the mix. Crowdstrike had produced a false and erroneous report about Russian targeting of Ukrainian artillery.
The Biden family is completely compromised DNC is completely compromised particularly in the form of Victoria nuland, vindman, jankovich, the whole state department, Etc.
Put on top of that the corrupt Europeans and the NATO bureaucracy that continues to justify its expired purpose and the defense industry that spends million on lies to Lobby Congress to continually sell arms to and expand NATO oh, and you have the perfect storm of absolute grotesque venality and corruption in the United States government. It's as plain as the nose on one's face for anybody who's paying attention.
I don't h8 anyone: but she, Hillery, I never heard her called that before: I call her KILLARY did for help to destroy and still does to this day.. destroying the magic and wonder of this world. Even seeing her on the various shows or on the internet makes me absolutely disgusted. The only reason I got my dual citizenship in 2015 is because after 8 years of Obama.. I was going to leave.. and also opened that door for my son and wife to leave.. the US as expats for a while. Thank God for USA and We the people, Trump won. Now we need to lock and load and get ready for 2022: November. Never give an inch. and never give up. I love that song too..
Actually I heard that comment when J.D Vance made it: I was not surprised at all: Karl Rove does not have a good reputation for a HUGE variety of issues.. and I used to really dislike him.. now he gets out his white board. I am of course a Republican and vote Republican unless otherwise indicated. I was not offended at all. This is not about assigning blame: as a truth seeker and U.S Patriot, Christian and Constitutional Conservative for many years I just voted the GOP ticket at the Federal level, and always did my homework on the local levels: and have served as a Delegate at many GOP conventions. The last 10 years now that I am retired, officially, that is from a job where I report in.. I have had the luxury of actually doing a lot of RESEARCH on the Republican side of the house since that is where I spend my money; and I only do Opposition research when I have to (like the with the Clinton's, especially Hillary). As recently as 10 years ago.. and I have been on the internet since before it was the internet, yes, that is possible, it was NOT possible to actually fully research out a candidate or public figure! .and now with the LEFT WING's infiltrating and taking over BIG TECH information, access has been set back five years: Some folks like figured this out: I did,, I did read 1984 in the mid 70s after all: and I have thousands of Gigs of research on disk and in book form for the day that many of us foresaw: Cancel Culture.. etc. So once again: BUYER BEWARE.. thanks for that. I also had a feeling J.D Vance would win: HILLBILLY ELEGY is awesome. :)
there are other boards as well: I just don't USE THEM :) at all. eventually all the information comes to either Twitter, which I am still not on.. been off since when Trump was kicked off and I was left because my account was "suspended" for posting a WAPO photo of the Andrew Jackson statue.. and I said that is cancel culture.. and never went back.. it is still filled with Biden Bots as we recently learned; and the info eventually comes to Facebook, or the internet itself.. and those who have eyes to see know what to look for: I recognize fake bots and spams when I see them.. usually. :) for the anointed. or for those who can run the gamut.. I can't do that anymore because of my vision, still need surgery for my eye(s) and also and I don't have the time and vision to sift though all the trolls and other people like Facebook, I saw a huge influx of trolling..and ads.. just keep scrolling or delete them. I have a lot to do around here.. Sunday is a good day to refocus and rest.. :) the phone is not ringing constantly .. :) take care. ttyl. Isabella
Thanks Techno, but it’s a shame Judge Cooper & The Brides couldn’t coordinate more convenient scheduling. Standing by to assist any overserved bridesmaid.
I'm honestly shocked that Mook was that forthcoming instead of pulling a Comey and just repeating "I don't recall" ad nauseum. When Hillary runs again in 2024 here's one person who won't be on the campaign staff.
Durham and his team may have other evidence in hand that could make such a response potentially dangerous. I suspect the Clinton side has decided that throwing Sussmann to the wolves is the least bad option.
I thought Sal Tessio was the traitor. But that was just a movie. In Washington, DC, all but eleven senators are traitors to the United States of America. The scum have voted to borrow another $40 billion from China to give our criminal friends in Ukraine to launder.
In theory and by evidence: Hillary should be in prison in 2024, but I also agree the DC bubble.. where I live is filled with Swamp creatures.. and now they somehow got on the Jury.. how did that happen? One asks in awe. !! could that be cosmic coincidence? yeah. right. Welcome to the Swamp.
"DC stinks" is what they have. Like the criminal case in the untouchables when all the jurors were bought n paid before Ness leveraged the judge to switch the juries...same feeling here....playing their hand openly and early w/ Mook....why not...watcha gonna do?
I still believe Durham is slow walking this entire investigation. He should be going for the broader conspiracy and tying all this and everyone together. Also this case says nothing to the coup attempt that continues throughout the Trump Presidency.
This trial is only about Sussman lying to the FBI, the new information hopefully will bring more investigation into Hillary and bring her to testify. The coup attempt will have to be a separate trial and due to the damaging evidence brought out in this trial it is highly likely there will be more trials.
Clearly you have never worked on an investigation, let alone one this size with the players being just as good at thier job as you are yours, Durham, first and foremost makes sure he covers every aspect with the I's dotted and T's crossed, he's not investigating armatures., as Sussmann has shown in all of his filings, nobody said Durham isn't going for something broader, because most people are ready know he is.
I hope what you believe is true, but this is painfully slow. Why not charge others with lying, and obstruction of justice? Where are the charges for Joffe and the Georgia Tech researchers? The Hopium crowd says Clinesmith may be cooperating, yet all we see is he walks with minimal consequences.
It does appear Durham may have won the fight for 1500 documents, and I gather current testimony is on the record for future trials.
Well, Elon Musk has stepped to the plate to broadcast these historic crimes.
If the FBI, in all their might, glory, and storied tradition, couldn’t see through the massively orchestrated, cunningly planned, October surprise ... Exactly how are they gonna catch terrorists?
Never underestimate the FBI. Remember how they stopped 9/11? Remember how they cleverly ignored Russian disinformation when the Boston Marathon was bombed?
And we can all rest comfortably with the knowledge that the FBI will stop the terror attacks on our food processing plants at 16 in 2022. This is two less than in 2021 and Joe Biden's greatest claim to success as President of the USA.
This might be an unpopular opinion but I don’t really care about the bias jury here and I also don’t care if Sussman gets convicted. He’s a scumbag like the rest but he’s a small part in the bigger problem. If Durham can keep pulling at threads and get more information out there about the people that really matter than I see it as a win because it could and should lead to more indictments.
Just stepping back it is really shocking what an absolute cancer HRC has been on the body politic for more than 30 years. What is also amazing is how many have aided and abetted this awful human being. I wonder psychologically if this is the bitter fruit of having been humiliated by Bill for so many years. She also is emblematic of everything wrong with the Democratic Party.
Robert Mook, Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign manager, also testified before the jury Friday. In his testimony, he stated that Hillary Clinton personally approved a plan to spread the lie that Trump was colluding with Russia via secret servers to the media. He also admitted to being briefed on the conspiracy. "
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Just shared this on social (anti-social?) media. Along with my preface, that HER is a liar, and they conspired w/ media to get people to hate Trump. "So if you hate Trump, ok, but is your hatred based on lies?"
Meanwhile, in the background there's a ferocious argument going on, where former New York Times reporter Eric Lichtblau, who was subpoenaed by Sussman to give testimony for the defense, is trying to get the court to limit the scope of cross-examination to which Durham can subject him, per his Motion for Protective Order filed May 12:
On May 19, Durham filed a Response, citing various legal authorities to show that there's no basis to limit the cross-examination of a witness in a criminal trial, and arguing that Lichtblau (and Sussman's lawyer) can't cherry-pick information to provide in Sussman's defense and disallow Durham's probing into relevant and/or related topics:
And this afternoon, May 22, Lichtblau filed a Reply to Durham's Response, again asserting some privilege to testify to what Sussman wants Lichtblau to testify while limiting what Durham can question him about:
In his Reply, Lichtblau requests oral argument and, if the court rules in Durham's favor, an opportunity to file an appeal.
The unspoken issue is that the FBI regularly leaks to the New York Times, and the two entities often share information in order to frame narratives to feed to the public, and Sussman and Lichtblau really don't want Durham to be able to cross-examine Lichtblau about those issues OR whether Lichtblau spoke with Hillary or any of her associates after being fed information by Sussman, Joffe, or someone at the FBI.
"Clinton's team made it all up, Durham found out easily, and Clinton's team admit it now. Yet, no one seems curious as to how Mueller/Weissmann could spend two years, $40 million, 2,800 subpoenas, use 40 agents, 19 DOJ lawyers, 500 witnesses and not figure that out."
I surely hope I am wrong but the jury is tainted, DC is 95% democrat and are Hillary supporters, This makes Durham’s job extremely difficult convincing biased jurors to deliver a guilty verdict even though the facts prove otherwise. My question now, does all this new info initiate having Hillary testify before a Grand Jury?
I agree, but Brian Cates reminded us that Durham never wastes his time - he will not bring a trial unless he's confident of the outcome. If the evidence is so damning and the jury doesn't do their job, that would be evidence of a bigger crime.
While I share your confidence in Durham (at the very lest his reputation), remember the Roger Stone show trial? The jury forewoman was not only a Clinton supporter but a fundraiser as well. No one seemed to have a problem with that naked conflict of interest.
Durham should have pushed for a change of venue.
Well, it looks like Durham is undercharging. Dozens of references to Conspiracy, but no Conspiracy or obstruction of justice charges. And other liars let off the hook.
When will we evolve past Hopium?
Cates is a lying fool. He had us believe for 2 years that Rod Rosenstein was a white hat and it all fell flat. Rod was duped just like the other fools. He could have shut this down once he saw the evidence but was afraid of Democrat Senators. Pathetic and worthless leader.
How about Cates isn't perfect, and RR is part of the Deep State? Whether an active player or a pajama boy, he went along with it all.
We couldn't be happier than not reading your posts.
I might be happier if I could say I never read ANY of those idiot posts. I made a bigger mistake and checked out his (LOL) "newsletter" which looks more like plagerism from msLSD. PURE TROLL
Absolutely
Watch Kash’s Corner on The Epoch Times. Good info as a former prosecutor and insight into jury selection.
Will do, thanks for the info.
In order to insult me I must value your opinion, Nice try though.
Ok. Kash Patel. I get the Epoch Times.
For Durham this case is not that important. What was important is bringing the fire to Hillary Clinton, and he succeeded. Mook did throw Obama under the bus. And I hope it's enough to enable Durham in flipping Clinton on Obama
"flipping Clinton on Obama" - Not sure what you might mean. The two are already wary enemies. Clinton was forced on Obama and he has done his best to clamp down on her. But Obama is a believer while the Clinton's are ordinary money crooks. Obama is handed money for his favors. Clinton must take. Both will eventually reach too far.
It's the Obama government who knew early onTrump would win, and created a plan that was supposed to take out the entire Trump team in 1 go.
The alfa bank story was only 1 part of the plan. Because all the different elements from this plan came from several sources and not straight from the white house , thus they thought to get away with it.
The question is if hillary knew the entire plan, or only this part of the plan she carried out, because she will now take the sword For Obama.
Mook cooperated early on with Obama and visited him in the White house. So it's not that far fetched to think Mook his testimony was to protect Obama and put the put the blame on hillary.
The difference is next, if Hillary takes the sword it stays with a political dirty trick.
If it was Obama, you are watching at a full blown coup attempt that is including fbi, ciq,nsa members from congress, state department and the brooks Institute.
The only thing that Durham still needs to interrogate is a spook who was placed inside a data assesment centre.
But hillary has now a problem. And if Durham turnes her on Obama it's going to be popcorn time
Democrats maybe at war with eachother. But their hate for Trump is do big they will work together.
I'm not sure if HRC will ever see justice but Obama was more than happy to see her get hurt. Not sure he wanted Trump but he likely figured Trump would do himself in. And now Obama has his front man, pity it's not working out so well. Ron Klain has pushed bad policy in the transformation that will be costly. Klain has always created a good party path not sure why he has become so mixed up.
I agree, die is corrupted and weaponised until the core.
The reason they now protect Obama above Clinton is easy, michelle will make a bid sooner or later.
I doubt that Michelle irrespective of her popularity will become a politician. I suspect there are some secrets behind her that would see daylight. But I really don't know. Perhaps she simply relishes celebrity without the attacks.
Even if tainted Mook created an out.
Mook is drawing a distinction between disclosure to the media and the FBI....the former was approved and they had a media strategy, the latter wasn't approved. Therefore, Mook just gave any Clinton sympathetic juror an out to not convict Sussman, to wit: Sussman was not authorized by the campaign to disclose it to FBI, therefore he acted outside his agency for the campaign and is de facto acting on his own (i.e., not for the campaign). Of course we know this is form over substance, but that's what they are going to argue.
Unless Durham has more testimony or documents showing the campaign or someone authorized on behalf of the campaign knew Sussman was reaching out to the FBI, then a vulnerable/sympathetic juror will find reasonable doubt. Durham has block billing for Sussman but he needs more.
RR
You know I remembered that name Robby Mook.. and then when I heard he agreed that Killary pulled the trigger on the disinformation about Trump.. and D N TRIPLE C.. DNCCC is that what Pelosi called it.. and then as I listened to all this what Huma Abadin, Hillary's "aide" and co conspirator .. on the "other tainted" Laptop: Anthony Weiner, now in rehab, I asked myself: Which thread to pull? There are so many. Durham is doing an amazing job of unraveling this Gordian Knot. I find it for more than troubling that the jury has been seeded by Hillary's minions in DC. I could write more .. excellent work: Techno. I did share to Facebook. finally catching up. sort of.
It would be helpful if the media was reporting on this important case. If that was true, even if a tainted jury found Sussman innocent, everyone besides the most demented WOKE would know the truth, ala the O.J. Simpson trial.
Elon Musk has blurted out his newfound knowledge to his 90 Million followers, with fresh words and succinctly.
The media would just spin it, make excuses, and otherwise dismiss the facts as they have been doing for the past 10 or more years. The most demented WOKE are too brainwashed to know anything, except that their goal is a Marxist utopia which is what they are coded to believe.
It would be helpful if the media did lots of things ... but we know what they are. They're much more than simply 'left-leaning' (as many of my friends grudgingly admit) ... they're active partisans who curate the news (what to report on, what to ignore) and (frankly) lie in order to achieve their broader political goals.
They're hopeless ... a drip-drip-drip trial with convictions and more indictments is the only (slim) hope we have to inform the normies.
Heck, Musk himself hadn't heard of 'Sussman' until just last month ... how long have we known about it?
They are too busy cramming the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial down our throat 24/7 to avoid this case!
I blame Durham for that! He could have had it moved anywhere but there
I agree ... unless he believes that: 1) the case is too strong not to get a conviction, and 2) he needed to bring evidence into a DC court, with DC jurors, and a DC judge.
Anywhere else would have been too easy to ignore the result, or the evidence.
OJ trial 2.0.
I hope not.
Sure he could - as long as he had the Sixth Amendment repealed first.
This is exactly why the fact that she was mentioned is a problem. It will invoke the need for the jurors to protect her by letting Sussman off.
I think that's why he only charged him with lying to the fby, not with conspiracy.
The significance of this investigation, it's outcome, and the reporting of it can not be overstated. Thank you! Enjoy the wedding.
The point of the alpha bank investigation or any of the charges against Trump were to provide salatious stories for the media to repeat to the public, which the dutifully did, as part of tge anti Trump conspiracy.
He was right about Hillary.
"Q: In the Summer of 2016, was Mr. Trump’s relationship with Russia something that the campaign focused on?
A: Yes. I mean, it was frankly something we were focused on before that time. But absolutely."
Keywords: "focused on BEFORE that time"
Connecting the dots, the larger conspiracy apparently dates back to April, 2016, when ALLEGEDLY-hacked DNC documents found their way onto the Internet, and eventually to Wikileaks. Instead of the FBI exercising its legal responsibility to conduct a forensic examination of the ALLEGEDLY-hacked server in relation to this ALLEGED criminal hacking and supposed national-security threat, the FBI mysteriously outsourced its investigative authority and allowed the DNC to hire a private entity --- CrowdStrike --- to conduct this criminal/national security investigation.
That is the FIRST criminal case I've ever heard of where law enforcement authorities allowed the ALLEGED victim to use their own hireling in place of government law enforcement in determining who the ALLEGED perpetrator of the crime was. What a convenience it was for the DNC to be allowed to claim it had been hack, hire the "experts" to confirm the hack, and pin the blame on the ALLEGED hacker --- Russia --- all without assistance or intervention by law enforcement authorities.
In other words, the DNC claimed to have been hacked (as opposed to one of its own rogue employees gaining access to the documents and releasing them). and then had its own hired firm pin the alleged hack on Russia --- and everyone --- democrat and republican alike --- just fell in line and accepted that new PRIVATIZATION of law enforcement and national security investigation as if it were standard procedure.
And this "coincidentally" happened concurrently with Hillary's people formulating the Russia-Collusion HOAX in all of its varied aspects. When you consider the fact that tying Trump to Russia wouldn't be especially damaging UNLESS Russia was first painted as the bad guy, it makes sense that framing Russia for an ALLEGED hack that has never been substantiated to have even occurred would be the logical first step for the Russia-Collusion Hoax.
It was a fairly long time ago now, and it also helps to remember that at the time, Hillary and the DNC were synonymous, because Hillary had obtained full financial control of the DNC heading into the campaign. So the ALLEGED hacking of the DNC was viewed as an attack on Hillary. Therefore the timeline was that first democrats accused Russia of attacking the DNC/Hillary, and then Russia began colluding with Trump. The second part of the scheme has now been fully debunked, but nobody seems to be willing to correlate that fraud with the still-unproven hack of the DNC.
And ever since April, 2016, Democrats have methodically pushed the US farther and farther into an adversarial relationship with Russia --- and ultimately the ongoing proxy war in Ukraine against a country that had previously been a partner in space with the International Space Station, and a partner in the war on terror, as demonstrated by Russia having warned the US about the Boston Marathon bombers, even though the Obama FBI chose to ignore the warning.
So in summary: Never forget about the ALLEGED hacking of the DNC that was never investigated by the FBI and that everyone just accepted as having happened because the DNC said it happened, and that that occurred simultaneously with the hatching of Hillary's Russia-Collusion Hoax that included the crime(s) currently being prosecuted.
Don’t forget, the investigation into the hack of the server occurred when Perkins Coie and Marc Elias hired Crowdstrike.
Crowdstrike was just another contractor like Fusion GPS to provide false information to Perkins Coie which they would then distribute on behalf of the campaign. Remember, in congressional testimony, even Crowdstrike admitted that they could not definitively prove that Russia hacked the DNC server, there were merely indications.
At at this point we know the Ukrainian company Crowdstrike was reflexively anti-Russian and was motivated to go along with the Perkins Coie effort to smear Russia with hacking allegations
The indications that Russia hacked the server are just as false and manufactured — via Perkins+contractor — as the indications that Trump/Russia had a connection through Alfa Bank.
The claim that Papadopoulos reported that the Russians had emails from Hillary was also manufactured. Halper and Downer and others were in on the set up.
Lastly, in the Michael Flynn trial, the DOJ finally admitted that the investigation into Flynn was not properly predicated. None of this was properly predicated.
Every inch of this was a set up orchestrated by the Clinton campaign. And facilitated by elements in the DOJ, FBI, CIA and foreign intelligence agencies.
There’s absolutely no indication that any aspect of the investigation into Trump and Russia arose spontaneously — without a planted and manufactured predicate, and the only person motivated to do that was the Clinton campaign — and her sympathizers in government or more than happy to go along.
There was an idiot on these pages here I’m previous threads trying to claim that cross fire hurricane proceeded the alpha bank allegations. While chronologically that is true, they all arose from the same source.
Perkins Coie was in the middle of what happened with the DNC hack, with the allegation the members of the Trump campaign had access to emails from Hillary through Russia
The whole effort was a preemptive effort to cover the campaign’s concern that other people had her deleted emails from her server, With the added benefit of smearing Trump
Too True.
Even IF the whole Mifsud / Pittella, Arvendir Sambei plot to Sabotage & Honeypot trap George Papadopoulos was a internally conspired "Gift" from "Euro friends of Hillary" (and not directly coordinated by Brennan or Comey), the Downer tip sprang from the same poisonous well of Clinton Inc.
It was FusionGPS, Steele's "Russia Russia" mongering in the media that prompted Downer to make a "Trump/Russia?" connection in his mind & contact the FBI.
Hillary! Quit drinking and get off this thread! You’re a worse liar here than you were on the campaign. Operating as a troll though is consistent with your hideous looks. We know when you say bush, you mean bush licker. Stop being so obvious, it’s unbecoming!
RFOL.. yeah. :)
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/26/606481548/supreme-court-upholds-trump-travel-ban
Very poor liar and faker and otherwise ill psycho.
Yes it’s worth remembering that the FBI let crowdstrike keep the computer and just accepted what they said. Unprecedented.
Somehow that the DNC refused to allow the FBI access to the servers and the unredacted Crowdstrike report remains an odd item. Wrong from the start and even Trump was not able to tease anything out. Have no idea who might tell him Ukraine had anything to do with the server or the leak. Manafort might know.
Crowdstrike is a Ukrainian originated company.
Understand. But Trump was pressing Zelenskyy to reveal the Burisma stuff. The same oligarch that owns Zelenskyy, Kolomoysky, also is involved or owns Burisma if Kanekoa is right https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/how-one-ukrainian-billionaire-funded?s=w. Zelenskyy had to play along with Trump but an entire story remains muddy. Manafort was an opposing figure to Kolomoysky so might have whispered something to Trump. The alignment of the DNC, Crowdstrike and the current Ukrainian government is also muddy.
Yes it can appear to be muddy but if you're really paying attention. It's actually crystal clear.
Victoria nuland is the main driver. Vindman and others are also centrally involved. You're correct on the oligarchs. And Burisma is central to the story. Jankowitz is part of the Story too.
Crowdstrike was in the mix. Crowdstrike had produced a false and erroneous report about Russian targeting of Ukrainian artillery.
The Biden family is completely compromised DNC is completely compromised particularly in the form of Victoria nuland, vindman, jankovich, the whole state department, Etc.
Put on top of that the corrupt Europeans and the NATO bureaucracy that continues to justify its expired purpose and the defense industry that spends million on lies to Lobby Congress to continually sell arms to and expand NATO oh, and you have the perfect storm of absolute grotesque venality and corruption in the United States government. It's as plain as the nose on one's face for anybody who's paying attention.
What else is in the DNC closet? I still have some Wikileaks on a separate hard drive from those days.. great summary .. thanks.
Murther most foul
I don't h8 anyone: but she, Hillery, I never heard her called that before: I call her KILLARY did for help to destroy and still does to this day.. destroying the magic and wonder of this world. Even seeing her on the various shows or on the internet makes me absolutely disgusted. The only reason I got my dual citizenship in 2015 is because after 8 years of Obama.. I was going to leave.. and also opened that door for my son and wife to leave.. the US as expats for a while. Thank God for USA and We the people, Trump won. Now we need to lock and load and get ready for 2022: November. Never give an inch. and never give up. I love that song too..
Actually I heard that comment when J.D Vance made it: I was not surprised at all: Karl Rove does not have a good reputation for a HUGE variety of issues.. and I used to really dislike him.. now he gets out his white board. I am of course a Republican and vote Republican unless otherwise indicated. I was not offended at all. This is not about assigning blame: as a truth seeker and U.S Patriot, Christian and Constitutional Conservative for many years I just voted the GOP ticket at the Federal level, and always did my homework on the local levels: and have served as a Delegate at many GOP conventions. The last 10 years now that I am retired, officially, that is from a job where I report in.. I have had the luxury of actually doing a lot of RESEARCH on the Republican side of the house since that is where I spend my money; and I only do Opposition research when I have to (like the with the Clinton's, especially Hillary). As recently as 10 years ago.. and I have been on the internet since before it was the internet, yes, that is possible, it was NOT possible to actually fully research out a candidate or public figure! .and now with the LEFT WING's infiltrating and taking over BIG TECH information, access has been set back five years: Some folks like figured this out: I did,, I did read 1984 in the mid 70s after all: and I have thousands of Gigs of research on disk and in book form for the day that many of us foresaw: Cancel Culture.. etc. So once again: BUYER BEWARE.. thanks for that. I also had a feeling J.D Vance would win: HILLBILLY ELEGY is awesome. :)
"since before it was the internet" - Usenet still lives on for the anointed. As does IRC.
there are other boards as well: I just don't USE THEM :) at all. eventually all the information comes to either Twitter, which I am still not on.. been off since when Trump was kicked off and I was left because my account was "suspended" for posting a WAPO photo of the Andrew Jackson statue.. and I said that is cancel culture.. and never went back.. it is still filled with Biden Bots as we recently learned; and the info eventually comes to Facebook, or the internet itself.. and those who have eyes to see know what to look for: I recognize fake bots and spams when I see them.. usually. :) for the anointed. or for those who can run the gamut.. I can't do that anymore because of my vision, still need surgery for my eye(s) and also and I don't have the time and vision to sift though all the trolls and other people like Facebook, I saw a huge influx of trolling..and ads.. just keep scrolling or delete them. I have a lot to do around here.. Sunday is a good day to refocus and rest.. :) the phone is not ringing constantly .. :) take care. ttyl. Isabella
Thanks Techno, but it’s a shame Judge Cooper & The Brides couldn’t coordinate more convenient scheduling. Standing by to assist any overserved bridesmaid.
I'm honestly shocked that Mook was that forthcoming instead of pulling a Comey and just repeating "I don't recall" ad nauseum. When Hillary runs again in 2024 here's one person who won't be on the campaign staff.
Durham and his team may have other evidence in hand that could make such a response potentially dangerous. I suspect the Clinton side has decided that throwing Sussmann to the wolves is the least bad option.
No honor among thieves...or politicians.
Mook will most likely commit Arkancide long before 2024.
If I were him I would at the very least hire a food taster.
If only Pete Clemenza was still around.
"Leave the gun, take the cannoli"
I thought Sal Tessio was the traitor. But that was just a movie. In Washington, DC, all but eleven senators are traitors to the United States of America. The scum have voted to borrow another $40 billion from China to give our criminal friends in Ukraine to launder.
In theory and by evidence: Hillary should be in prison in 2024, but I also agree the DC bubble.. where I live is filled with Swamp creatures.. and now they somehow got on the Jury.. how did that happen? One asks in awe. !! could that be cosmic coincidence? yeah. right. Welcome to the Swamp.
"DC stinks" is what they have. Like the criminal case in the untouchables when all the jurors were bought n paid before Ness leveraged the judge to switch the juries...same feeling here....playing their hand openly and early w/ Mook....why not...watcha gonna do?
Tough call, so much talent. Def a favorite of mine.
I still believe Durham is slow walking this entire investigation. He should be going for the broader conspiracy and tying all this and everyone together. Also this case says nothing to the coup attempt that continues throughout the Trump Presidency.
This trial is only about Sussman lying to the FBI, the new information hopefully will bring more investigation into Hillary and bring her to testify. The coup attempt will have to be a separate trial and due to the damaging evidence brought out in this trial it is highly likely there will be more trials.
Yes.. I saw that: Hillary now needs to testify. As one attorney said: Bill and Hillary don't do well under OATH. Legalized perjury.
Clearly you have never worked on an investigation, let alone one this size with the players being just as good at thier job as you are yours, Durham, first and foremost makes sure he covers every aspect with the I's dotted and T's crossed, he's not investigating armatures., as Sussmann has shown in all of his filings, nobody said Durham isn't going for something broader, because most people are ready know he is.
I hope what you believe is true, but this is painfully slow. Why not charge others with lying, and obstruction of justice? Where are the charges for Joffe and the Georgia Tech researchers? The Hopium crowd says Clinesmith may be cooperating, yet all we see is he walks with minimal consequences.
It does appear Durham may have won the fight for 1500 documents, and I gather current testimony is on the record for future trials.
Well, Elon Musk has stepped to the plate to broadcast these historic crimes.
If the FBI, in all their might, glory, and storied tradition, couldn’t see through the massively orchestrated, cunningly planned, October surprise ... Exactly how are they gonna catch terrorists?
Never underestimate the FBI. Remember how they stopped 9/11? Remember how they cleverly ignored Russian disinformation when the Boston Marathon was bombed?
And we can all rest comfortably with the knowledge that the FBI will stop the terror attacks on our food processing plants at 16 in 2022. This is two less than in 2021 and Joe Biden's greatest claim to success as President of the USA.
Let’s hope that Durham is unraveling that thread. - You'll forgive me if i don't hold my breath
This might be an unpopular opinion but I don’t really care about the bias jury here and I also don’t care if Sussman gets convicted. He’s a scumbag like the rest but he’s a small part in the bigger problem. If Durham can keep pulling at threads and get more information out there about the people that really matter than I see it as a win because it could and should lead to more indictments.
Just stepping back it is really shocking what an absolute cancer HRC has been on the body politic for more than 30 years. What is also amazing is how many have aided and abetted this awful human being. I wonder psychologically if this is the bitter fruit of having been humiliated by Bill for so many years. She also is emblematic of everything wrong with the Democratic Party.
[nuclear] BOOM!
"The Robby Mook testimony.
Robert Mook, Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign manager, also testified before the jury Friday. In his testimony, he stated that Hillary Clinton personally approved a plan to spread the lie that Trump was colluding with Russia via secret servers to the media. He also admitted to being briefed on the conspiracy. "
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jtip5XrACpZM/
#4952 Durham.
Just shared this on social (anti-social?) media. Along with my preface, that HER is a liar, and they conspired w/ media to get people to hate Trump. "So if you hate Trump, ok, but is your hatred based on lies?"
Meanwhile, in the background there's a ferocious argument going on, where former New York Times reporter Eric Lichtblau, who was subpoenaed by Sussman to give testimony for the defense, is trying to get the court to limit the scope of cross-examination to which Durham can subject him, per his Motion for Protective Order filed May 12:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60390583/133/united-states-v-sussmann/
On May 19, Durham filed a Response, citing various legal authorities to show that there's no basis to limit the cross-examination of a witness in a criminal trial, and arguing that Lichtblau (and Sussman's lawyer) can't cherry-pick information to provide in Sussman's defense and disallow Durham's probing into relevant and/or related topics:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60390583/140/united-states-v-sussmann/
And this afternoon, May 22, Lichtblau filed a Reply to Durham's Response, again asserting some privilege to testify to what Sussman wants Lichtblau to testify while limiting what Durham can question him about:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60390583/141/united-states-v-sussmann/
In his Reply, Lichtblau requests oral argument and, if the court rules in Durham's favor, an opportunity to file an appeal.
The unspoken issue is that the FBI regularly leaks to the New York Times, and the two entities often share information in order to frame narratives to feed to the public, and Sussman and Lichtblau really don't want Durham to be able to cross-examine Lichtblau about those issues OR whether Lichtblau spoke with Hillary or any of her associates after being fed information by Sussman, Joffe, or someone at the FBI.
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"Clinton's team made it all up, Durham found out easily, and Clinton's team admit it now. Yet, no one seems curious as to how Mueller/Weissmann could spend two years, $40 million, 2,800 subpoenas, use 40 agents, 19 DOJ lawyers, 500 witnesses and not figure that out."
HRC is entitled, bitter, lazy, and perpetually angry.