But if they lie to the GJ about anything, even stuff beyond the reach because of the statues of limitations, they can at least be charged purjury and we & everybody else would know the truth... If this leads to a Treason charge, no escaping that. Didn't Hillary say "if we don't stop this guy we are all gonna' swing", paraphrased..
Thank you for bringing this up. Most Federal crimes carry a 5-year SOL which should mean that everything up until Trump's first month in office off the table, including all of the collusion and scheming up through the 2016 election. Some exceptions exist for longer time frames although none of these would seem likely charges for Durham to bring.
Federal tax evasion (U.S. Code 26 Section 7201) – 6 years
Failure to file a tax return with the I.R.S. (U.S. Code 26 Section 7203) – 6 years
Major fraud involving at least $1 million against the federal government (U.S. Code 18 Section 1031) – 7 years
Non-violent violations of federal terrorism laws (U.S. Code 18 Section 3286(a)) – 8 years
Arson (U.S. Code 18 Section 3295) – 10 years
Embezzling funds from a federal financial institution (U.S. Code 18 Section 657) – 10 years
Using false or fraudulent citizenship papers (U.S. Code 18 Section 1423) – 10 years
Theft of major artwork (U.S. Code 18 Section 3294) – 20 years
And some have none:
Federal crimes punishable by death (U.S. Code 18 Section 3281)
Terrorism crimes that resulted in death or serious bodily injury (U.S. Code 18 Section 3286)
Sex crimes with a minor (U.S. Code 18 Section 3283)
The statute of limitations for conspiracy is different than what you cited. Also, the statute is tolled every time any member of the conspiracy takes any step in furtherance of the conspiracy, including efforts to cover up the conspiracy.
Which, presumably, would include lying about any aspect of one's knowledge of said event. In any event, every stinking one of these bastrds needs to be held account able in some manner. Perhaps civil charges could bankrupt some of these turd baskets.
Very comprehensive article, Techno Fog. Thank you for superior work, as always.
I believe the SOL is based on the date from the last crime. As these crimes are continuing, as long as the cover-up continues that becomes a part of the crime, does it not? Think about it.
The amount of information that the Durham Team has gathered is astounding.
We'll see where this all leads, but a lot of people should be in BIG Trouble.
We need more Indictments and more ARRESTS! - especially of the top level criminals (we know their names, don't we?)
Will Marc Elias be indicted?
Note: you should add to the list the 8 hours interview of Durham with John Brennan, which took place (strangely) at the CIA Headquarters in Langley, on August 21, 2020
8 hours is quite a long interview...
And we know that Brennan is the Mastermind of all the Spy Operations on Trump
(The British GCHQ SpyOp included)
Has Gina Haspel been interviewed?
Do you have any info on that?
Gina Haspel was CIA Station Chief in London in 2016, and she is very friendly with the British spies... (Dearlove, MI6, Hannigan, GCHQ)
We know the British were deeply involved in all this scam (Brennan outsourcing)
Can we confirm in someway that Peter Strzok was a dual agent working for both FBI and CIA?
Will we ever find out if Carter Page is also CIA or more officially on the FBI books other than assisting in the Buryakov case? He sure speaks that word salad tongue professionally...
Strzok worked as a special liaison between the CIA and FBI. It's how he was able to both write the EC initiating the investigation into DJT and formally open the Crossfire Hurricane case at the FBI.
True. But "someone" placed Strzok in that position. The question is WHO?
The CIA is far more powerful than the FBI.
My money is on either Brennan or Hayden.
by the way: Strzok was also promoted >> in March 2016. Just in time before the HRC email scandal, and before the SpyOps on Trump - so Strzok was able to manage BOTH.
Peter Strzok worked 24 years for the CIA. His job title was Chief of their Counterespionage Group.
The FBI never had such a unit. A joint CIA/FBI position was created by Congress in 1996. Strzok was "a senior FBI official" by being the CIA’s Chief of Counterespionage.
Strzok's signature and job title is on a letter he sent to Gregory Starr on January 20th, 2016. It was sent on FBI stationery.
The official job description of Strzok's joint position included "full-time coordination with the FBI ... including weekly meetings with senior FBI officials in the FBI's National Security Division".
Strzok was still working for the CIA on June 9th, 2017. We know this by the text he sent FBI's Lisa Page - "Just got an Agency coin", followed by "With Brennan's signature;)".
Washington is still reeling from Peter Strzok’s testimony on Capitol Hill, where House lawmakers grilled him about his efforts to use FBI government power to try to stop President Donald Trump’s campaign and current presidency.
Strzok was the main operative in “Operation Crossfire Hurricane,” a Deep State plot to run legal attacks on President Trump’s team.
Now we know that Strzok was really a CIA agent. He only held a ceremonial title in the Bureau, but was really operating under the leadership of the CIA, including Obama’s vindictive CIA director John Brennan.
I've been refreshing on the Brennan part of things. I'm convinced this is where they are going. It was an entire hit on the EOP. I made note that Durham told the court yesterday to make notice that the FBI is part of the EOP.
Everywhere a puzzling and completely irrational DNC/media/security state propaganda.
BUT -- there is a VERY rational reason for that.
We are dealing with BIG Lie(s)
ANY, even rudimentary, discussion would unravel the lie(s) -- total censorship and prompt defamations are the ONLY choice for the immensely corrupt Deep State cabal.
PS: A sad thing is that GOP lunatics are equally repulsive and dangerous -- happily grunting together while feeding at same donor troughs.
It is the CIA which is controlling all the press and all the TV Networks.
The CIA controls the narrative.
The CIA is in cahoots with the Democrats (and the CIA has been deeply infiltrated by Communists) - just look at John Brennan, who is a confessed COMMUNIST, and who was the CIA Chief of Staff already in 1999, then CIA Deputy Executive Director (2001-2003), "Special Assistant to "president" Obama (2009-2013), and finally CIA Director (2013-Jan 2017).
Of course, but "our" brainwashed conservative friends believe it is "leftists" and "marxists".... 1% is laughing watching us 99% fighting their windmills
The scope does inspire some confidence. The silence inspires more confidence. A quick response especially one with salacious leaks would be a cover or miscarriage.
This case is orders of magnitude greater than Watergate. It involves agencies established to protect US citizens and the legal foundation of our country that are proving partisan and corrupt to their core.
The fraudulent accusations of Russia Collusion undermined geopolitical stability as well as internal election processes. The lies echoed on the media represent the actions associated with Color Revolution and soft coups.
A lesser charge might bring the house of cards down like, Al Capone toppling because of tax evasion. Murder, bootlegging, bribery, extortion, and money laundering never got pinned on him. Now, that type of outcome is not enough though.
In this case, I hope Durham uncovers enough dirt to generate the will and leverage to clean house, not just create a scapegoat like Ghislaine Maxwell. The corruption is a hydra. It is not enough to target a lesser part or even a head. There is a group of actors who worked to bring down our government for their gain and goals they were not elected to pursue. For their greed and arrogance the world suffered.
Durham's process does inspire cautious optimism. Hopefully, that confidence is rewarded in time with thorough enough proof to do the good we need.
Did the narrative of Russia collusion latenly embolden V Putin, or were they content to just laugh at the silly Americans undermining of their own democracy? Surely there were strategic comms amongst our adversaries regarding the absolute absurdity of this thinly veiled, but effective, coup, and to your point, it let them war-game scenarios in how the world would take shape after a Trump take-down.
Casting Russia as a villain working with Trump and acting against the rest of the US shut down strategic dialogue between the too countries. It complicated diplomacy in Syria and related issues. It also made discussion with Russia over Ukraine more difficult, which we definitely feel the consequence of today. Our State Dept and one of two major parties demonized Russia to the point any dialogue with them was difficult.
Your coverage is priceless because it makes this Gordian knot of conflicting interests and covert alliances into a framework that's possible to get your head around it without adopting the issue as a research project. The dedication to factual accuracy and source document turns an arduous search into a lovely read and informed update. Big time kudos & thanks!
But just so we know that nobody's perfect you left a typo in a word even we tragic spellers can find but only painfully slow readers would spot, lucky me. :~)
Thank you! I know there is tremendous doubt whether justice will truly be served. At the very least, there will be a public record available to those who will do the research and recording in the future. Hopefully all this documentation is in duplicate +.
Thanks for the reminder that there are things going on. What is amazing is that so little is leaking. This leads me to believe that it is much bigger than anyone can imagine, and probably ties in with other events. Think of one big revelation of the many illegalities of the past years.
I’d like to the think the Durham investigation is honest & drilling in exhaustively on the massive treasonous conspiracies that extended from the crooked Hillary campaign to the DOJ, FBI, CIA, & even Obama White House but w corrupt Democrats & the Deep State in control I don’t expect much no matter what Durham has uncovered. They’ll kill it or get done corrupt Obama judge to kill it. That’s how out Gov works these days.
HOWEVER, BEAR THIS IN MIND: This is, I believe crucial (much as I'd LOVE to see Pillary stuffed into the earth): This happened during the time when Obama was still president. IF it happened with his approval, it was TOTALLY legit in terms of the "hacks" into White House computer systems, including ANY used by Team Trump. The President of the United States has absolute authority to decide what is classified, what is declassified and what access is granted to ANY computer system operating within the White House or functioning through White House servers.
SO, if Obama did not trust Trump, as seemed fairly obvious at the time, and said, "I want every computer system that connects to the internet on behalf of Donald Trump or his transition team or his campaign via White House servers to be scoured for whom it is connecting to," (DNS data) then that is absolutely the right of the standing president of the United States. If, however, Hillary did it without Obama's approval, that would be entirely a different story, and IF the actions continued after Donald J. Trump as sworn in as president of the United States, that would also be totally different (and illegal).
Obama's actions would not be legal if you shine the light of the Constitution on them. Even with the title of POTUS, it is logical to believe that treason removes the 'legal' connotation you mentioned.
Only the biggest crime ever, thats all. Thanks for your continued efforts to shed light on this. It'll be a great book for the newbies when the spotlight starts shining...or why even be going to the trouble of investigating. Thinking about rejoining Twitter just to troll strzok some more
Strzok and Lisa, the Love Puppies, are the poster children for a dysfunctional FBLie and the need to disband them.
In reality, the ONLY LE agency in the USA that is still worthy of respect, besides the Border Patrol, are the US Marshals. In fact, defund and disband the FBLie and expand the US Marshals.
I could not agree more. The CIA should have been dismantled in 1991 after they MISSED the fall of the USSR and the FBLie in 2001 when they AND the CIA botched 9-11-2001.
The US Gruberment is staffed with idiots and morons to stupid to walk and chew gun at the same time and I know, I used to work with and around them.
Thank you for all your hard work and public service, Mr. Durham. I thought IG Horowitz was supposed to be Boy Scout straight and nonpartisan - apparently he is either stupid, naive or corrupted like the rest of the rotten FBI/DOJ executive management.
I remember those, what seemed strange at the time, articles about Italy and the mysterious trip made by Barr and Durham then. I hope and pray we understand all that happened some day, and all who were involved brought to justice. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️
Wow ... this singular article contains so much MORE info than everything I've read about Durham's investigation, combined. Well done.
I agree! TechnoFog is The Best in legal matters
Agree, this degree of research needs support. I'm sure a paid subscription would be appreciated.
... no doubt.
Yep gives a little hope
Ugh. And yesterday we find out that IG Horowitz "Withheld Key Evidence From Special Counsel Durham"... I'll be long dead before the first arrest.
What's the statute of limitations on the statute of limitations?
But if they lie to the GJ about anything, even stuff beyond the reach because of the statues of limitations, they can at least be charged purjury and we & everybody else would know the truth... If this leads to a Treason charge, no escaping that. Didn't Hillary say "if we don't stop this guy we are all gonna' swing", paraphrased..
Thank you for bringing this up. Most Federal crimes carry a 5-year SOL which should mean that everything up until Trump's first month in office off the table, including all of the collusion and scheming up through the 2016 election. Some exceptions exist for longer time frames although none of these would seem likely charges for Durham to bring.
Federal tax evasion (U.S. Code 26 Section 7201) – 6 years
Failure to file a tax return with the I.R.S. (U.S. Code 26 Section 7203) – 6 years
Major fraud involving at least $1 million against the federal government (U.S. Code 18 Section 1031) – 7 years
Non-violent violations of federal terrorism laws (U.S. Code 18 Section 3286(a)) – 8 years
Arson (U.S. Code 18 Section 3295) – 10 years
Embezzling funds from a federal financial institution (U.S. Code 18 Section 657) – 10 years
Using false or fraudulent citizenship papers (U.S. Code 18 Section 1423) – 10 years
Theft of major artwork (U.S. Code 18 Section 3294) – 20 years
And some have none:
Federal crimes punishable by death (U.S. Code 18 Section 3281)
Terrorism crimes that resulted in death or serious bodily injury (U.S. Code 18 Section 3286)
Sex crimes with a minor (U.S. Code 18 Section 3283)
https://www.wklaw.com/statute-of-limitations-for-federal-crimes/
there is no time limit on a coup and treason, especially when ongoing.
The statute of limitations for conspiracy is different than what you cited. Also, the statute is tolled every time any member of the conspiracy takes any step in furtherance of the conspiracy, including efforts to cover up the conspiracy.
Law has lots of nuance.
Which, presumably, would include lying about any aspect of one's knowledge of said event. In any event, every stinking one of these bastrds needs to be held account able in some manner. Perhaps civil charges could bankrupt some of these turd baskets.
Very comprehensive article, Techno Fog. Thank you for superior work, as always.
I believe the SOL is based on the date from the last crime. As these crimes are continuing, as long as the cover-up continues that becomes a part of the crime, does it not? Think about it.
Excellent article, TechnoFog! Thank you!
The amount of information that the Durham Team has gathered is astounding.
We'll see where this all leads, but a lot of people should be in BIG Trouble.
We need more Indictments and more ARRESTS! - especially of the top level criminals (we know their names, don't we?)
Will Marc Elias be indicted?
Note: you should add to the list the 8 hours interview of Durham with John Brennan, which took place (strangely) at the CIA Headquarters in Langley, on August 21, 2020
8 hours is quite a long interview...
And we know that Brennan is the Mastermind of all the Spy Operations on Trump
(The British GCHQ SpyOp included)
Has Gina Haspel been interviewed?
Do you have any info on that?
Gina Haspel was CIA Station Chief in London in 2016, and she is very friendly with the British spies... (Dearlove, MI6, Hannigan, GCHQ)
We know the British were deeply involved in all this scam (Brennan outsourcing)
Can we confirm in someway that Peter Strzok was a dual agent working for both FBI and CIA?
Will we ever find out if Carter Page is also CIA or more officially on the FBI books other than assisting in the Buryakov case? He sure speaks that word salad tongue professionally...
Strzok worked as a special liaison between the CIA and FBI. It's how he was able to both write the EC initiating the investigation into DJT and formally open the Crossfire Hurricane case at the FBI.
True. But "someone" placed Strzok in that position. The question is WHO?
The CIA is far more powerful than the FBI.
My money is on either Brennan or Hayden.
by the way: Strzok was also promoted >> in March 2016. Just in time before the HRC email scandal, and before the SpyOps on Trump - so Strzok was able to manage BOTH.
Who promoted Strzok ?
again: my money is on either Brennan or Hayden.
Brennan created the fusion team, so you're right.
good questions, Charlotte!
I bet one day we'll find out Strzok is friend with John Brennan since 1998
Strzok's texts to Page on 2017-06-09 were
"Just got an Agency coin"
"With Brennan's signature;)".
So there's that.
Peter Strzok worked 24 years for the CIA. His job title was Chief of their Counterespionage Group.
The FBI never had such a unit. A joint CIA/FBI position was created by Congress in 1996. Strzok was "a senior FBI official" by being the CIA’s Chief of Counterespionage.
Strzok's signature and job title is on a letter he sent to Gregory Starr on January 20th, 2016. It was sent on FBI stationery.
The official job description of Strzok's joint position included "full-time coordination with the FBI ... including weekly meetings with senior FBI officials in the FBI's National Security Division".
Strzok was still working for the CIA on June 9th, 2017. We know this by the text he sent FBI's Lisa Page - "Just got an Agency coin", followed by "With Brennan's signature;)".
https://news.vice.com/article/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-investigation-section-811
https://www.cia.gov/news-information/press-releases-statements/press-release-archive-1996/pr111896.html
Carter Page is too convenient
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/bombshell-peter-strzok-was-cia-and-fbi-at-the-same-time/
Washington is still reeling from Peter Strzok’s testimony on Capitol Hill, where House lawmakers grilled him about his efforts to use FBI government power to try to stop President Donald Trump’s campaign and current presidency.
Strzok was the main operative in “Operation Crossfire Hurricane,” a Deep State plot to run legal attacks on President Trump’s team.
Now we know that Strzok was really a CIA agent. He only held a ceremonial title in the Bureau, but was really operating under the leadership of the CIA, including Obama’s vindictive CIA director John Brennan.
I've been refreshing on the Brennan part of things. I'm convinced this is where they are going. It was an entire hit on the EOP. I made note that Durham told the court yesterday to make notice that the FBI is part of the EOP.
All this while the DOJ and FBI continue with J6 injustice
Everywhere a puzzling and completely irrational DNC/media/security state propaganda.
BUT -- there is a VERY rational reason for that.
We are dealing with BIG Lie(s)
ANY, even rudimentary, discussion would unravel the lie(s) -- total censorship and prompt defamations are the ONLY choice for the immensely corrupt Deep State cabal.
PS: A sad thing is that GOP lunatics are equally repulsive and dangerous -- happily grunting together while feeding at same donor troughs.
It is the CIA which is controlling all the press and all the TV Networks.
The CIA controls the narrative.
The CIA is in cahoots with the Democrats (and the CIA has been deeply infiltrated by Communists) - just look at John Brennan, who is a confessed COMMUNIST, and who was the CIA Chief of Staff already in 1999, then CIA Deputy Executive Director (2001-2003), "Special Assistant to "president" Obama (2009-2013), and finally CIA Director (2013-Jan 2017).
I wrote a book on Brennan: "Who is John Brennan?"
https://gregrubini.squarespace.com/intelligence
I will write an article on "The CIA Propaganda Machine" in the coming days
Of course, but "our" brainwashed conservative friends believe it is "leftists" and "marxists".... 1% is laughing watching us 99% fighting their windmills
The scope does inspire some confidence. The silence inspires more confidence. A quick response especially one with salacious leaks would be a cover or miscarriage.
This case is orders of magnitude greater than Watergate. It involves agencies established to protect US citizens and the legal foundation of our country that are proving partisan and corrupt to their core.
The fraudulent accusations of Russia Collusion undermined geopolitical stability as well as internal election processes. The lies echoed on the media represent the actions associated with Color Revolution and soft coups.
A lesser charge might bring the house of cards down like, Al Capone toppling because of tax evasion. Murder, bootlegging, bribery, extortion, and money laundering never got pinned on him. Now, that type of outcome is not enough though.
In this case, I hope Durham uncovers enough dirt to generate the will and leverage to clean house, not just create a scapegoat like Ghislaine Maxwell. The corruption is a hydra. It is not enough to target a lesser part or even a head. There is a group of actors who worked to bring down our government for their gain and goals they were not elected to pursue. For their greed and arrogance the world suffered.
Durham's process does inspire cautious optimism. Hopefully, that confidence is rewarded in time with thorough enough proof to do the good we need.
Durham submitting the Judicial Notice to the court that the FBI is part of the Executive Branch of the Government was noticeable to me.
https://twitter.com/PeaceAnonRedux/status/1529978249853419520
Techno:
https://technofog.substack.com/p/durham-clinton-allies-spied-on-the?s=r
Did the narrative of Russia collusion latenly embolden V Putin, or were they content to just laugh at the silly Americans undermining of their own democracy? Surely there were strategic comms amongst our adversaries regarding the absolute absurdity of this thinly veiled, but effective, coup, and to your point, it let them war-game scenarios in how the world would take shape after a Trump take-down.
Casting Russia as a villain working with Trump and acting against the rest of the US shut down strategic dialogue between the too countries. It complicated diplomacy in Syria and related issues. It also made discussion with Russia over Ukraine more difficult, which we definitely feel the consequence of today. Our State Dept and one of two major parties demonized Russia to the point any dialogue with them was difficult.
Your coverage is priceless because it makes this Gordian knot of conflicting interests and covert alliances into a framework that's possible to get your head around it without adopting the issue as a research project. The dedication to factual accuracy and source document turns an arduous search into a lovely read and informed update. Big time kudos & thanks!
But just so we know that nobody's perfect you left a typo in a word even we tragic spellers can find but only painfully slow readers would spot, lucky me. :~)
"Durham’s scope covers more **that** what "
Thank you for the gracious observation
Thank you! I know there is tremendous doubt whether justice will truly be served. At the very least, there will be a public record available to those who will do the research and recording in the future. Hopefully all this documentation is in duplicate +.
I just checked Taibbi’s substack archive, there are no follow up Schrage posts, though he states there would be. Maybe because of the investigation?
Perhaps.
You've been so correct about so many things through this, one remains hopeful.
But, with so little corrective action, we default back to perhaps.
Thanks for the reminder that there are things going on. What is amazing is that so little is leaking. This leads me to believe that it is much bigger than anyone can imagine, and probably ties in with other events. Think of one big revelation of the many illegalities of the past years.
Keep up the great work. It gives me great comfort knowing that Durham is out there, and he's got them all.
I’d like to the think the Durham investigation is honest & drilling in exhaustively on the massive treasonous conspiracies that extended from the crooked Hillary campaign to the DOJ, FBI, CIA, & even Obama White House but w corrupt Democrats & the Deep State in control I don’t expect much no matter what Durham has uncovered. They’ll kill it or get done corrupt Obama judge to kill it. That’s how out Gov works these days.
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HOWEVER, BEAR THIS IN MIND: This is, I believe crucial (much as I'd LOVE to see Pillary stuffed into the earth): This happened during the time when Obama was still president. IF it happened with his approval, it was TOTALLY legit in terms of the "hacks" into White House computer systems, including ANY used by Team Trump. The President of the United States has absolute authority to decide what is classified, what is declassified and what access is granted to ANY computer system operating within the White House or functioning through White House servers.
SO, if Obama did not trust Trump, as seemed fairly obvious at the time, and said, "I want every computer system that connects to the internet on behalf of Donald Trump or his transition team or his campaign via White House servers to be scoured for whom it is connecting to," (DNS data) then that is absolutely the right of the standing president of the United States. If, however, Hillary did it without Obama's approval, that would be entirely a different story, and IF the actions continued after Donald J. Trump as sworn in as president of the United States, that would also be totally different (and illegal).
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Obama's actions would not be legal if you shine the light of the Constitution on them. Even with the title of POTUS, it is logical to believe that treason removes the 'legal' connotation you mentioned.
Only the biggest crime ever, thats all. Thanks for your continued efforts to shed light on this. It'll be a great book for the newbies when the spotlight starts shining...or why even be going to the trouble of investigating. Thinking about rejoining Twitter just to troll strzok some more
Strzok and Lisa, the Love Puppies, are the poster children for a dysfunctional FBLie and the need to disband them.
In reality, the ONLY LE agency in the USA that is still worthy of respect, besides the Border Patrol, are the US Marshals. In fact, defund and disband the FBLie and expand the US Marshals.
Then go after the DOJ!
The FBI, the CIA, the DOJ must be DISMANTLED.
I don't understand why Trump didn't do it.
The FBI, the CIA, the DOJ are Criminal Organizations, a Criminal Cartel.
I could not agree more. The CIA should have been dismantled in 1991 after they MISSED the fall of the USSR and the FBLie in 2001 when they AND the CIA botched 9-11-2001.
The US Gruberment is staffed with idiots and morons to stupid to walk and chew gun at the same time and I know, I used to work with and around them.
why would anyone with a brain submit themselves to mind numbing Govt jobs
Thank you for all your hard work and public service, Mr. Durham. I thought IG Horowitz was supposed to be Boy Scout straight and nonpartisan - apparently he is either stupid, naive or corrupted like the rest of the rotten FBI/DOJ executive management.
Time to clean house.
Thank you sir!!!
I remember those, what seemed strange at the time, articles about Italy and the mysterious trip made by Barr and Durham then. I hope and pray we understand all that happened some day, and all who were involved brought to justice. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️