It is pretty much established in the real world that Trump did know Epstein and broke relations with him years ago over his obsession with very young girls. Try your brand of imaginative political reality on some 10 year olds and maybe you will be in your element. Surely there are Disney based podcasts that would better suit your emotional and intellectual level.
Just goes to show you that President Trump was innocent of everything the perverted,genderconfused, baby killing libs accused him of. They had his emails yet he walks feee.
Trump probably the only person, whom even the corrupt DOJ couldnt frame even with access to all his attorney-client emails and all his financials. Squeaky clean.
Likely the key to breaking the stone wall of information: “DARPA contract, federal contract, at issue here, which we have been looking at closely.”
I’ll not retract my bet on DARPA “DREaM” being the CIA’s “Bulk Surveillance Program” and was the need for a legal “inference” into a technology the CIA claims is NOT “technically plausible”
"I’ll also add that the fact that privilege applies to some of these documents strengthens the Special Counsel’s argument that Sussmann was representing a client when he met with then-FBI General Counsel James Baker in September 2016."
This was such a fab revelation.. karma, unintended consequence or strategic genius it's fantastic.. every pinch of pressure on the dirtbags & liars is effort well spent.
Oh please. Stop the Russian disinformation. There are a TINY number of skinheads in Ukraine, irrelevant to the governance and protection of the country. Zelensky has to tolerate them because they are excellent warriors against the TRUE Fascists in Russia. Regardless of the Dem’s false claims about Russian collusion, make no mistake that Russia is very much our enemy under Putin. Trump was under no illusions about Putin - he repeatedly slapped him down while rubbing his head.
That's an interesting take. By whose estimate is there a TINY # of skinheads in Ukraine? What is a TINY number? Zelensky has to tolerate them? Also, interesting when I have seen Zelensky wearing shirts with Nazi symbols on them when making speeches recently. The Nazis were the ones doing the dirty work against the people of the Donbass region and Putin warned them to stop for years. Estimates are they have killed 50,000 people. I guess a TINY # of Nazis can still do harm but I digress.
Less than one tenth of one percent of Ukraine population has been identified as “ultra nationalist” and far fewer could accurately be described as “neo Nazis.” As my wife’s family is Ukrainian, from Odesa, and her great grandparents left to the US to get out before Hitler marched through, her Jewish great uncle’s family, which still lives there, is extremely sensitive to the Russian and international Troll narrative that there are a substantial number of “Nazis” in Ukraine. Given the national tragedy of the German occupation and Stalin’s fascist genocide, this is an explosive and vicious smear.
Jewish residents of the Donbas had exactly ZERO fear of violence or threat from any nationalist movement, rather 100% of their fear was from the huge number of Russian provocateurs and mercenaries who started flooding the region from 2008-2014. Posing as natives, they attacked Ukrainian police and military, and pushed locals off ther farms and land. With vast amounts of weapons and even heavy artillery from Russia, they provoked the war after the people of Ukraine rose up and threw out the corrupt Russian puppet Porky, and his oligarch cadre of Putin sycophants, who have been robbing Ukraine blind for generations.
Her second cousin of the same generation is a human rights lawyer in Kyiv, and says it is common knowledge that the vast majority of corruption in the country is Russian influence, streaming as much money out of the country as possible. Zlochevsky and Burisma were a perfect example - a Putin loyalist who drained national gas resources into Cypriot, Latvian and Russian banks, taking billons of Ukrainian patrimony for Putin’s oligarchs and his own shell entities.
The “dirty work” in Ukraine was being done by RUSSIANS against Ukrainians, and Putin has used tool trolls like you to sell this notion that the legitimate government, fighting to get the disease of Russian vermin out of their country are Nazis, a disinformation campaign that is so morally repugnant it beggars the imagination.
The TINY number of ACTUAL “neo Nazi” loons who fight in the Azov battalions are not killing UKRAINIANS, they are killing RUSSIANS. Zelensky must tolerate them (enemy of my enemy) but he knows they will turn on him when Russia is defeated. Saying the Nazis are a big issue in Ukraine is like claiming Puerto Rican separatists are a huge problem in the USA. They can be bad people, but there are very few of them.
It is sickening to see conservatve US websites tolerate and spread these lies and slanders. As for the “Nazi symbol” smear, you Russian trolls are really sickening. The Iron Cross is NOT a Nazi symbol. FFS dozens of American metal bands display it on their albums, drum kits, and anywhere else. Steppenwolf, the great 60s band, used it all the time. The Cossack ability to lie and defame to provide an excuse for genocide and conquest has always been epic.
I am not a Russian troll and I do not believe one word you have said. It would not surprise me one bit if you aren't a Ukrainian Nazi. Do everyone a favor on this "conservative website"-go crawl back under the rock you came out from under.
Well, you sure act like one. I am a New Yorker, 66 years old, half Jewish, of Austrian and Russian descent, a fourth generation New Yorker, and my wife is of Ukrainian and Austrian descent and also a fourth generation New Yorker. My family has been here since the Civil War. You appear to be a fool and a patsy for Putin’s propaganda. Have you ever BEEN to Ukraine? I have several times, both for business and as a tourist. This Nazi fetishism is sad. I love this website, the reporting on the Clinton scandal is the best there is. But, have noticed that the sites that have been on top of it, like The Conservative Treehouse, have become a nesting ground for Russian apologists and propagandists. Ukraine has a long history of anti-Semitism, but t has changed dramatically since the fall of the Soviet Union. The Jewish community there is thriving, - witness their JEWISH PRESIDENT, something the US has never had. This despite the small percentage of the population Jews comprise.
Take your hateful crap and stick it. Calling everyone you dont agree with a Nazi is sickening. That kind of hate will give you anal cancel - that’s what happened to Putin.
No one gives a rat's ass how long your family has been here and your heritage does not make you smart-you are an example of that. I have an ancestor who was from Michigan who fought for the Union Army in the Civil War. Again, no one cares. Whether or not I have been to Ukraine does not mean that I cannot be aware of the crimes being committed there.
I have never been to Germany but I know there were crimes committed there by the Nazis in WW2. I have never been to Mexico but I know major crime organizations control the government there. There are a lot of people here in the US who are absolutely clueless to the propaganda our own government puts out and likely has been for at least 100 years. The CIA has been in control of the MSM for years so they could create division and support for their constant wars around the world. All in an effort for our political leaders to become filthy rich and keep the endless wars going around the world. I am not a fool or patsy but I have listened to parts of the speeches being made before the UN by the Russian Ambassador. The truth is that our own government has been funding biolabs in Ukraine and Victoria Nuland even admitted it to Congress when she had to testify recently (after they vehemently denied there were biolabs in Ukraine). It is very possible that those labs created the COVID virus that caused the recent "pandemic". The virus then made its way to Wuhan. My point is that there are multiple reasons for Putin invading Ukraine and the Nazis terrorizing the people of the Donbass region is just one. There is massive corruption and money laundering in Ukraine, a lot of which is being done by our political leaders (on both sides of the aisle). There is also evidence of human and sex trafficking. And Zelensky is in bed with the Ukrainian mob. You need to do some research into how Zelensky became so rich. Putin is not losing the war in Ukraine but you wouldn't know that if you listened to the MSM. Furthermore, I am not anti-semitic and you know nothing about me to suggest that I am, but most losers will start implying and name calling when they are on the losing side of an argument.
What a load. MOst people in Donbas identify as proud Ukrainians and were THRILLED to be free of Russia and voted OVERWHEMINGLY in the 1991 referendum. The region voted OVER 90% to be independent of Russia, higher than the national average. Ukraine has labored under grotesque Russian influence and corruption for three decades. In 2014 they declared they had had ENOUGH of Putin’s relentless interference and draining of their resources, and threw out his puppet regme.
Putin wants the mineral resources and ports of Ukraine, nothing more nothing less. All thge blather s just fraudulent rationalization.
This "tiny percent" is what is being denazified. We have no problem with rank and file Ukrainians, they are our brethren. The Cabal backed elites and their nazis - they are the enemies of humanity
Concerning that aspect of the ruling that Durham waited too long to bring the privilege issue to the court's attention: I still can't understand why the prosecution had no response ready when two opposing lawyers argued in the hearing that Durham waited too long --- leading to the ruling that the documents can't be used at trial.
The fact that the FEC had just recently ruled that Hillary's campaign and the DNC violated the law by failing to report campaign expenditures that were wrongfully concealed by false claims that payments to Perkins Coie were "legal expenses," would have been sufficient explanation for bringing the matter to the court's attention 5 weeks before trial, just one week after the FEC closed its investigation. But Durham's lawyers didn't respond to the accusations of opposing lawyers during the hearing.
That is NOT a good sign. Those arguments were known and expected at the hearing, since they had been expressly made in filed Motions and Responses. So Durham's lawyers should have had answers ready for that hearing, but instead had no response of any kind.
Hopefully during the trial the prosecution will have responses ready when opposing lawyers make arguments that the prosecution has every reason to expect.
Doesn't this beg the question though as to why Sussman was only charged with a single, very narrow charge of lying? For instance, if there exists emails proving he was involved in a fraudulent conspiracy with Joffe against the government, why does Sussman get off with a lowly charge of simple lying, especially when there is a real possibility that the Court could rule the lie was immaterial?
Prosecutorial discretion. Durham had framed the case well with his filings, making clear Sussman is very much part of the criminal organizing that set about trying to overthrow a duly elected President. Lying to the FBI is the least fraught with risk charge at this time. I think the Hilary/Podesta Cabal is willing to sacrifice Sussman; hence the admission to the FEC finding and paying a fine. Yes, I want Sussman charged with the rest of the bad actors in the overriding RICO case. But Durham seems to have a plan of attacking it by careful piecing so far; I believe he has looked at the complex monstrosity and thought it through how to prosecute and bring key players down. Sussman may yet plead.
As a first-time nonviolent offender, there's very little likelihood that Sussman would be sentenced to jail time. Clinesmith, who directly tampered with evidence presented to the FISC, was sentenced only to probation.
So there's not much incentive for Sussman to plead. The real punishment for him would come via suspension of his law license due to a felony conviction, and he'd get that whether he pleads guilty or is found guilty. And again, Clinesmith's suspension was only for a year concerning what has to be considered a much-more serious crime.
Meanwhile, Judge Cooper is steadily whittling down the evidence Durham can introduce (with still more whittling to come at trial), while simultaneously granting Sussman's various evidentiary requests. So this could end up being a very tough conviction to secure --- especially considering Cooper's evidentiary ruling today (Friday, May 13) allowing introduction of notes taken in a meeting, which appear to show that the FBI was fully aware that Sussman was representing a client.
Sussman's co-conspirators would LOVE for him to go to trial and beat the rap, because that would make further prosecutions less likely and much harder to win.
I don't know what is going to happen to any of them. Clinesmith is a low hanging fruit in terms of the players. He likely gave up information for that light sentence because the prosecutors really want the people at the top giving the orders. I do know that Trump said he was going to drain the swamp and I believe him. He also said in one of the most famous lines from a presidential debate "Because you'd be in jail." What former president has done rallies and stayed so visible once leaving office? Sure, many of them have made comments here and there but nothing like Trump. My point is, I don't think Trump is finished. Trump does not like to lose. Trump is very intelligent contrary to what the MSM and Democrats want you to believe. You should go back and look at his history in working with people like Guiliani, Comey, Rosenstein, etc. It took years for Guiliani to build RICO against the mob and that is what I think we are looking at here. Most of the MSM and Democrats will tell you that the judge delivered a blow to Durham, however if you read TechnoFog's take on the rulings you will see that is not true. My understanding is that he cannot use that evidence in THIS case but can use it in future cases, also. Durham already has the evidence in a different form and that is why the judge ruled the way he did. Furthermore, this investigation has been going on for years and likely goes all the way to the top that includes some very powerful people. Any prosecutor would make sure the evidence they have would need to be solid before making any indictments against those people. There are over 300,000 garnd jury, sealed indictments currently in the US (the most in history) and that is no secret if you look it up. It is just a matter of time before those indictments are unsealed. Obviously, time will tell what is going to happen but let me end with this one last point: these investigations have gone on for years, yet no one knew they were taking place until we started seeing the court filings against Sussman.
Actually the lie can't be found immaterial, it's the crux. Others went to the FBI with the same information but included the fact that they were working for DNC and Clinton campaign. When they realized that they had to be unaffiliated with a political agency, Sussman went in and lied. The thing is the FBI probably knew that he was lying. The whole thing stinks. Joffe, I think is the guy that had access to information that DARPA was collecting for national defense but he misappropriated the information. Sussman is being charged with lying because it's easy to prove and creates a path to others. The filings show that they are attempting to build a meticulous case. You can't just go straight to the capo de tutti capos.
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Judge Cooper issued another evidentiary ruling today (Friday, May 13) which is favorable to Sussman.
If Sussman's lawyers lay the proper foundation at trial to overcome the rule against hearsay, notes taken during a joint DOJ-FBI meeting will be allowed to be read into evidence, which appear to show that everyone in that meeting, (including Baker, whom Sussman allegedly lied to) was aware that Sussman WAS representing a client. The pertinent part of the ruling states as follows:
"Meeting attendees from the DOJ included Boente, Mary McCord, Tashina Gauhar, and Scott Schools. Id. Attendees from the FBI included Andrew McCabe (then-Deputy Director of the FBI) and then FBI General Counsel James Baker, along with Trisha Anderson and William Priestap. Id. The notes taken by Ms. McCord and Ms. Gauhar suggest that Mr. McCabe advised the group that the Alfa Bank allegations were shared with the FBI by an 'attorney . . . on behalf of his client'"
That could conceivably be enough to raise reasonable doubt and make this case very difficult for the prosecution to win unless Durham's team figures out how to shut that reasonable doubt down.
Don’t get lost seeing the forest through the trees ... the importance of spying on an INCOMING and SITTING PRESIDENT is profound
Indeed, but the treason began in the Oval Office
exactly
all roads lead to Obama...
I prefer "Barry"
I prefer Hussein
Same same
Bush, Clinton and Obama - different faces of same Satanic Elite
What I would really prefer is not reading idiot comments like yours.
The fact you think there are two parties shows the level of your ignorance
Obama was in charge of this shitshow. So was Joey.
Pay attention. Hillary is in charge of this. She has already been fined for her actions. She is also being sued by President Trump in Florida.
And it wasn’t just the FBI. It was the entire Justice department.
Moron.
You are totally lost and should lay off the "stimulants".
Last I looked it was illegal
Impeach 44
Trumpicide = Killing Trump. Haha, you try to create fun terms like "Arkancide" but fail so miserably.
Geez, you sound just like an idiot TROLL
It is pretty much established in the real world that Trump did know Epstein and broke relations with him years ago over his obsession with very young girls. Try your brand of imaginative political reality on some 10 year olds and maybe you will be in your element. Surely there are Disney based podcasts that would better suit your emotional and intellectual level.
Cat Loving Gene, grow up and stop talking like a 13 year old.
Michael Cohen had all the email between him and the Trump organization seized and used against him. Double Standard?
Just goes to show you that President Trump was innocent of everything the perverted,genderconfused, baby killing libs accused him of. They had his emails yet he walks feee.
Trump probably the only person, whom even the corrupt DOJ couldnt frame even with access to all his attorney-client emails and all his financials. Squeaky clean.
Keep up the Great Work Techno Fog!!! Spread the word!!
TechNo_Fog!!!
Likely the key to breaking the stone wall of information: “DARPA contract, federal contract, at issue here, which we have been looking at closely.”
I’ll not retract my bet on DARPA “DREaM” being the CIA’s “Bulk Surveillance Program” and was the need for a legal “inference” into a technology the CIA claims is NOT “technically plausible”
TY for your clear writing. Your analysis is welcome for we without legal training or bent.
"I’ll also add that the fact that privilege applies to some of these documents strengthens the Special Counsel’s argument that Sussmann was representing a client when he met with then-FBI General Counsel James Baker in September 2016."
This was such a fab revelation.. karma, unintended consequence or strategic genius it's fantastic.. every pinch of pressure on the dirtbags & liars is effort well spent.
Some beautiful minds spend time in this space. Ty for letting me stay. I'm wanted to be gone from most. ❌️⭕️
DNC and Biden cabal claims that a biggest domestic threat are “white supremacists” – while financing and arming Ukro-Nazis !! What a FRAUD…
Your taxpaying money is paying for salaries of card carrying Ukraine Nazis – THINK about that !!
Oh please. Stop the Russian disinformation. There are a TINY number of skinheads in Ukraine, irrelevant to the governance and protection of the country. Zelensky has to tolerate them because they are excellent warriors against the TRUE Fascists in Russia. Regardless of the Dem’s false claims about Russian collusion, make no mistake that Russia is very much our enemy under Putin. Trump was under no illusions about Putin - he repeatedly slapped him down while rubbing his head.
That's an interesting take. By whose estimate is there a TINY # of skinheads in Ukraine? What is a TINY number? Zelensky has to tolerate them? Also, interesting when I have seen Zelensky wearing shirts with Nazi symbols on them when making speeches recently. The Nazis were the ones doing the dirty work against the people of the Donbass region and Putin warned them to stop for years. Estimates are they have killed 50,000 people. I guess a TINY # of Nazis can still do harm but I digress.
Less than one tenth of one percent of Ukraine population has been identified as “ultra nationalist” and far fewer could accurately be described as “neo Nazis.” As my wife’s family is Ukrainian, from Odesa, and her great grandparents left to the US to get out before Hitler marched through, her Jewish great uncle’s family, which still lives there, is extremely sensitive to the Russian and international Troll narrative that there are a substantial number of “Nazis” in Ukraine. Given the national tragedy of the German occupation and Stalin’s fascist genocide, this is an explosive and vicious smear.
Jewish residents of the Donbas had exactly ZERO fear of violence or threat from any nationalist movement, rather 100% of their fear was from the huge number of Russian provocateurs and mercenaries who started flooding the region from 2008-2014. Posing as natives, they attacked Ukrainian police and military, and pushed locals off ther farms and land. With vast amounts of weapons and even heavy artillery from Russia, they provoked the war after the people of Ukraine rose up and threw out the corrupt Russian puppet Porky, and his oligarch cadre of Putin sycophants, who have been robbing Ukraine blind for generations.
Her second cousin of the same generation is a human rights lawyer in Kyiv, and says it is common knowledge that the vast majority of corruption in the country is Russian influence, streaming as much money out of the country as possible. Zlochevsky and Burisma were a perfect example - a Putin loyalist who drained national gas resources into Cypriot, Latvian and Russian banks, taking billons of Ukrainian patrimony for Putin’s oligarchs and his own shell entities.
The “dirty work” in Ukraine was being done by RUSSIANS against Ukrainians, and Putin has used tool trolls like you to sell this notion that the legitimate government, fighting to get the disease of Russian vermin out of their country are Nazis, a disinformation campaign that is so morally repugnant it beggars the imagination.
The TINY number of ACTUAL “neo Nazi” loons who fight in the Azov battalions are not killing UKRAINIANS, they are killing RUSSIANS. Zelensky must tolerate them (enemy of my enemy) but he knows they will turn on him when Russia is defeated. Saying the Nazis are a big issue in Ukraine is like claiming Puerto Rican separatists are a huge problem in the USA. They can be bad people, but there are very few of them.
It is sickening to see conservatve US websites tolerate and spread these lies and slanders. As for the “Nazi symbol” smear, you Russian trolls are really sickening. The Iron Cross is NOT a Nazi symbol. FFS dozens of American metal bands display it on their albums, drum kits, and anywhere else. Steppenwolf, the great 60s band, used it all the time. The Cossack ability to lie and defame to provide an excuse for genocide and conquest has always been epic.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/mar/25/facebook-posts/zelenskys-shirt-bears-emblem-ukraine-armed-forces-/
The fact that you used Politifact as a fact checker tells me all I need to know about you.
I am not a Russian troll and I do not believe one word you have said. It would not surprise me one bit if you aren't a Ukrainian Nazi. Do everyone a favor on this "conservative website"-go crawl back under the rock you came out from under.
Well, you sure act like one. I am a New Yorker, 66 years old, half Jewish, of Austrian and Russian descent, a fourth generation New Yorker, and my wife is of Ukrainian and Austrian descent and also a fourth generation New Yorker. My family has been here since the Civil War. You appear to be a fool and a patsy for Putin’s propaganda. Have you ever BEEN to Ukraine? I have several times, both for business and as a tourist. This Nazi fetishism is sad. I love this website, the reporting on the Clinton scandal is the best there is. But, have noticed that the sites that have been on top of it, like The Conservative Treehouse, have become a nesting ground for Russian apologists and propagandists. Ukraine has a long history of anti-Semitism, but t has changed dramatically since the fall of the Soviet Union. The Jewish community there is thriving, - witness their JEWISH PRESIDENT, something the US has never had. This despite the small percentage of the population Jews comprise.
Take your hateful crap and stick it. Calling everyone you dont agree with a Nazi is sickening. That kind of hate will give you anal cancel - that’s what happened to Putin.
No one gives a rat's ass how long your family has been here and your heritage does not make you smart-you are an example of that. I have an ancestor who was from Michigan who fought for the Union Army in the Civil War. Again, no one cares. Whether or not I have been to Ukraine does not mean that I cannot be aware of the crimes being committed there.
I have never been to Germany but I know there were crimes committed there by the Nazis in WW2. I have never been to Mexico but I know major crime organizations control the government there. There are a lot of people here in the US who are absolutely clueless to the propaganda our own government puts out and likely has been for at least 100 years. The CIA has been in control of the MSM for years so they could create division and support for their constant wars around the world. All in an effort for our political leaders to become filthy rich and keep the endless wars going around the world. I am not a fool or patsy but I have listened to parts of the speeches being made before the UN by the Russian Ambassador. The truth is that our own government has been funding biolabs in Ukraine and Victoria Nuland even admitted it to Congress when she had to testify recently (after they vehemently denied there were biolabs in Ukraine). It is very possible that those labs created the COVID virus that caused the recent "pandemic". The virus then made its way to Wuhan. My point is that there are multiple reasons for Putin invading Ukraine and the Nazis terrorizing the people of the Donbass region is just one. There is massive corruption and money laundering in Ukraine, a lot of which is being done by our political leaders (on both sides of the aisle). There is also evidence of human and sex trafficking. And Zelensky is in bed with the Ukrainian mob. You need to do some research into how Zelensky became so rich. Putin is not losing the war in Ukraine but you wouldn't know that if you listened to the MSM. Furthermore, I am not anti-semitic and you know nothing about me to suggest that I am, but most losers will start implying and name calling when they are on the losing side of an argument.
And, Zelensky was NOT wearing any “Nazi symbols”. The Iron Cross is a symbol of brave warriors, and has been adopted not just by military units all over the world, but is common on heavy Metal band albums and gear. What a disgusting smear against a Jewish man, one of heroic dimension. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/mar/25/facebook-posts/zelenskys-shirt-bears-emblem-ukraine-armed-forces-/
What a load. MOst people in Donbas identify as proud Ukrainians and were THRILLED to be free of Russia and voted OVERWHEMINGLY in the 1991 referendum. The region voted OVER 90% to be independent of Russia, higher than the national average. Ukraine has labored under grotesque Russian influence and corruption for three decades. In 2014 they declared they had had ENOUGH of Putin’s relentless interference and draining of their resources, and threw out his puppet regme.
Putin wants the mineral resources and ports of Ukraine, nothing more nothing less. All thge blather s just fraudulent rationalization.
This "tiny percent" is what is being denazified. We have no problem with rank and file Ukrainians, they are our brethren. The Cabal backed elites and their nazis - they are the enemies of humanity
Concerning that aspect of the ruling that Durham waited too long to bring the privilege issue to the court's attention: I still can't understand why the prosecution had no response ready when two opposing lawyers argued in the hearing that Durham waited too long --- leading to the ruling that the documents can't be used at trial.
The fact that the FEC had just recently ruled that Hillary's campaign and the DNC violated the law by failing to report campaign expenditures that were wrongfully concealed by false claims that payments to Perkins Coie were "legal expenses," would have been sufficient explanation for bringing the matter to the court's attention 5 weeks before trial, just one week after the FEC closed its investigation. But Durham's lawyers didn't respond to the accusations of opposing lawyers during the hearing.
That is NOT a good sign. Those arguments were known and expected at the hearing, since they had been expressly made in filed Motions and Responses. So Durham's lawyers should have had answers ready for that hearing, but instead had no response of any kind.
Hopefully during the trial the prosecution will have responses ready when opposing lawyers make arguments that the prosecution has every reason to expect.
Doesn't this beg the question though as to why Sussman was only charged with a single, very narrow charge of lying? For instance, if there exists emails proving he was involved in a fraudulent conspiracy with Joffe against the government, why does Sussman get off with a lowly charge of simple lying, especially when there is a real possibility that the Court could rule the lie was immaterial?
Prosecutorial discretion. Durham had framed the case well with his filings, making clear Sussman is very much part of the criminal organizing that set about trying to overthrow a duly elected President. Lying to the FBI is the least fraught with risk charge at this time. I think the Hilary/Podesta Cabal is willing to sacrifice Sussman; hence the admission to the FEC finding and paying a fine. Yes, I want Sussman charged with the rest of the bad actors in the overriding RICO case. But Durham seems to have a plan of attacking it by careful piecing so far; I believe he has looked at the complex monstrosity and thought it through how to prosecute and bring key players down. Sussman may yet plead.
As a first-time nonviolent offender, there's very little likelihood that Sussman would be sentenced to jail time. Clinesmith, who directly tampered with evidence presented to the FISC, was sentenced only to probation.
So there's not much incentive for Sussman to plead. The real punishment for him would come via suspension of his law license due to a felony conviction, and he'd get that whether he pleads guilty or is found guilty. And again, Clinesmith's suspension was only for a year concerning what has to be considered a much-more serious crime.
Meanwhile, Judge Cooper is steadily whittling down the evidence Durham can introduce (with still more whittling to come at trial), while simultaneously granting Sussman's various evidentiary requests. So this could end up being a very tough conviction to secure --- especially considering Cooper's evidentiary ruling today (Friday, May 13) allowing introduction of notes taken in a meeting, which appear to show that the FBI was fully aware that Sussman was representing a client.
Sussman's co-conspirators would LOVE for him to go to trial and beat the rap, because that would make further prosecutions less likely and much harder to win.
I don't know what is going to happen to any of them. Clinesmith is a low hanging fruit in terms of the players. He likely gave up information for that light sentence because the prosecutors really want the people at the top giving the orders. I do know that Trump said he was going to drain the swamp and I believe him. He also said in one of the most famous lines from a presidential debate "Because you'd be in jail." What former president has done rallies and stayed so visible once leaving office? Sure, many of them have made comments here and there but nothing like Trump. My point is, I don't think Trump is finished. Trump does not like to lose. Trump is very intelligent contrary to what the MSM and Democrats want you to believe. You should go back and look at his history in working with people like Guiliani, Comey, Rosenstein, etc. It took years for Guiliani to build RICO against the mob and that is what I think we are looking at here. Most of the MSM and Democrats will tell you that the judge delivered a blow to Durham, however if you read TechnoFog's take on the rulings you will see that is not true. My understanding is that he cannot use that evidence in THIS case but can use it in future cases, also. Durham already has the evidence in a different form and that is why the judge ruled the way he did. Furthermore, this investigation has been going on for years and likely goes all the way to the top that includes some very powerful people. Any prosecutor would make sure the evidence they have would need to be solid before making any indictments against those people. There are over 300,000 garnd jury, sealed indictments currently in the US (the most in history) and that is no secret if you look it up. It is just a matter of time before those indictments are unsealed. Obviously, time will tell what is going to happen but let me end with this one last point: these investigations have gone on for years, yet no one knew they were taking place until we started seeing the court filings against Sussman.
Wow-so are you or you wouldn't have commented
Some are saying that he will definitely plead to save the others from testifying. Hopefully he isn't Arkancided. Time will tell...
Actually the lie can't be found immaterial, it's the crux. Others went to the FBI with the same information but included the fact that they were working for DNC and Clinton campaign. When they realized that they had to be unaffiliated with a political agency, Sussman went in and lied. The thing is the FBI probably knew that he was lying. The whole thing stinks. Joffe, I think is the guy that had access to information that DARPA was collecting for national defense but he misappropriated the information. Sussman is being charged with lying because it's easy to prove and creates a path to others. The filings show that they are attempting to build a meticulous case. You can't just go straight to the capo de tutti capos.
I'm emotion filled right now. History, Mom passed away 10 years old. Dad could cope but not with me a newborn as mom didn't get home from hospital much. Dad was escorted out of California eventually and one phrase they often said and today is tender day I suppose, SandieBabe, don't ever lose sight of the forest you love to play in but the real world can only see the trees from a distance around them BUT❤️🔥 you see the magic.❤️🔥🕊💙👣👐💎💐❤️🩹
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Hey Techno_Fog!!!
Just stumbled on to something you might enjoy reading.
It’s certainly not the smoking gun. However, with my unusual spidey senses, I think the topic and where it originates isn’t merely coincidental.
https://smartech.gatech.edu/bitstream/handle/1853/62452/LARGEST_UNETHICAL_MEDICAL_EXPERIMENT_FINAL.pdf?sequence=4&isAllowed=y
Yikes…😳! Re:vax?
Nope.
Not going to use Tech_no’s space to explain in full.
However, I’ll give ya a hint:
Pay very close attention to the professions of the witnesses or those who provide testimony in the Sussmann case.
They are not experts in the field of which Sussmann is accused. They are DNS experts.
DNS Experts testifying about a human lying?????
Judge Cooper issued another evidentiary ruling today (Friday, May 13) which is favorable to Sussman.
If Sussman's lawyers lay the proper foundation at trial to overcome the rule against hearsay, notes taken during a joint DOJ-FBI meeting will be allowed to be read into evidence, which appear to show that everyone in that meeting, (including Baker, whom Sussman allegedly lied to) was aware that Sussman WAS representing a client. The pertinent part of the ruling states as follows:
"Meeting attendees from the DOJ included Boente, Mary McCord, Tashina Gauhar, and Scott Schools. Id. Attendees from the FBI included Andrew McCabe (then-Deputy Director of the FBI) and then FBI General Counsel James Baker, along with Trisha Anderson and William Priestap. Id. The notes taken by Ms. McCord and Ms. Gauhar suggest that Mr. McCabe advised the group that the Alfa Bank allegations were shared with the FBI by an 'attorney . . . on behalf of his client'"
That could conceivably be enough to raise reasonable doubt and make this case very difficult for the prosecution to win unless Durham's team figures out how to shut that reasonable doubt down.
this case will drag on forever..
this case will drag on forever if it has not proceeded further yet..