"As the Russia-Ukraine crisis heats up, we have no idea whether American leadership is telling the truth."
Truth is irrelevant to the regime. Only narrative and hidden policy goals matter. If a regime mouthpiece is talking, you should just assume they're lying.
Jan 19, 2022·edited Jan 19, 2022Liked by Techno Fog
Put Boot and Farkas at the tip of the spear in any conflict and see how fast they sue for peace.
Don't we have enough of our fathers, sons, brothers, uncles and grandfathers in national cemeteries? Don't we have enough men walking around without an arm or a leg to promote someone else's vision of 'freedom"?
The fact that the establishment has the hubris to beat the drums for another military conflict within half a year of disastrous route is depressing AF.
Policy goal or not, America has proved over the last 20 years that other than the First Gulf War, we never go in to win with a clear decisive victory with lasting impact. Oh trust me, we CAN...but....this is more to do with money than anything.
America goes to war in order to feed the industrial military complex, launder money to their friends who in turn grease the palms of the politicians and keep that teet flowing as long as possible no matter how many body bags are sent home and disabled vets return to be left for dead by the VA.
It has ZERO to do with a policy goal and more to do with how we now unable to conduct the entire operation and the lack of support for vets who come back from these wars.
We are in no position from any angle to get involved. It is the anvil that will finally sink America.
Jan 19, 2022·edited Jan 19, 2022Liked by Techno Fog
The Ukrainian / Russian conflict (war) is a US policy goal. The US has pushed for war to feed the gluttonous Military Industrial Complex. This has been true since the fall of the USSR. Truthfully before; the US has been meddling in Ukraine far longer though. The US backed the likes of nationalists Stepan A. Bandera enough to sow dissent and internal strife with the goal of destabilizing the USSR and then Russia.
The US has been expanding NATO often repurposing former Soviet bases in the process. The US does not care about its previous commitments. The US has no clear objectives. Nor does the US fully grasp the unique position Ukraine plays in Russian history.
In Russian and Ukrainian the name "Russian" (Русский and Російський) means "Rus of Kyiv". In many ways Kyiv is to Russia what Jerusalem is to Jews. Russian ties to Kyiv are not as overt as Jewish ties are to Jerusalem, but they are strong and powerful nonetheless and over 1000 years old. When Putin says there is no difference between the Russian and Ukrainian people it is not just hyperbole. Russian nationalism, starts with the founder of Kyiv and the Kievan Rus from the 9th Century. They have long ties to Ukraine. Russia does not see Ukraine the same as it sees other countries. Russia feels it is the guardian of Slavic culture or Viking/Slavic culture. This is especially true of Ukraine.
Russia has also stated since WWII, the next conflict will not be conventional. They know they cannot go toe-to-toe with the US in a kenetic war. Russia is prepared psychologically to go nuclear like few other countries. It has the means to do so like no other country. Also, revelations from former Soviets like Ken Alibek show the Russians have a large biological capability that they would use as well.
The US has cynically used Ukraine to get at Russia with little actual regard for Ukraine.
It doesn't matter that Russian aggression in Crimea and the Donbas have done more to forge a Ukrainian nationality than most other events since the Holodomor. It doesn't matter that Ukraine has a right to be a sovereign nation regardless of how Russia struggles with "mommy / daddy" issues with its identity. The US is not acting in Ukraine's interest nor with true appreciation for the fire it is playing with.
The combined greed, hubris, and ignorance leading the US to war is staggering. We should be using sophisticated, nuanced diplomacy instead of hamfisted caricatures little better than Rocky and Bullwinkle cutouts of Boris and Natasha to inform our policy back by naked greed.
The US needs to stay out of Ukraine especially in the way it has inserted itself over the decades since WWII and even more since the fall of the USSR. The US approach is going to open a hellfire no one wants.
Jan 19, 2022·edited Jan 19, 2022Liked by Techno Fog
NATO is unimportant in this scenario; Russia, the US, and they know that they are not willing, or even really capable, of dealing with Russia. Russia doesn't really want to get into armed conflict with the US, but is more capable of dealing with this situation if it comes to that than we are; their military is not a shell, with feckless and incompetent leadership, and an even less capable CinC.
The problem is that the dolts in State might not know or understand this, as they have continually showed how clueless they are, and how easily pushed around. Perhaps they think that this is their big chance to 'make their bones', or some such idiocy; that is what we (as a country) have been saddled with. It may even be that they are not trying to "poke the bear", but simply grandstand, and are not be smart enough to realize that Russia doesn't bluff much when they believe (rightly or not) that their security is being threatened.
To boot, this simply pushes Russia and China closer together, as if things weren't bad enough already. Let's not mention how aggressive China has been with the current resident of the White House regarding Taiwan; the master diplomat sure is showing his butt, and we will be the ones who pay for it, literally and figuratively...
Jan 19, 2022·edited Jan 19, 2022Liked by Techno Fog
I do not see any real benefit from going to war over Ukraine which is not a NATO country. I do see that other NATO partners like Poland etc could see this as a test of the alliance’s will and their own security prospects. Plainly, Putin’s goal is to damage NATO over the long term. Also, China is watching all this as well. Each of these two ( Russia and China) see Biden as very weak. They could easily see this as a time of opportunity. So, the question for me is this a new domino theory or not?
Sorry, I believe Putin way before I believe one word our government has to say about anything. And I do mean ANYTHING! What a shame. I haven't believed them since Vietnam and 50,000 of our children died. And I've been right every single time. I don't believe them about 9/11 either. Our government was taken over by evil many decades ago.
The usual cabal of war mongers keep pushing for a new war. -- any war is good enough for them. If these old white "movers and shakers" ever had to even take public transportation in NYC they would be shaking in their boots. They are cowards who think nothing of sending American kids to fight and die for their latest wrongheaded and criminal international adventure. Max Boot is a mentally disturbed faux Conservative who should be shunned and fired from his perch. The drumbeat for war is building and must be resisted at all costs.
Since Russia could never win a war with NATO and the U. S. a cornered Putin might launch a final nuclear attack before being dismantled. But all these "experts" scoff at the idea. WW I was started over one man killing a leader of a 2nd rate nation in Europe. If any leader could see the carnage and devastation that came with WW I I doubt anyone would have "declared war" on anyone.
Ukraine needs to come clean and in the sunlight provide evidence of what the Biden's activity in Ukraine was, what they did, who they worked with, who paid them, etc... then and only the should the USA think about helping them.
Helping Ukraine should involve sending arms, bombs, maybe some aviation assets - BUT NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND!
We've been at WAR for 24 Years. Its a Bipartisan Effort. America is in the Business of War. But who was putting a stop to it - Trump. And where is he, they drove him out of town on a rail. And now with Biden - War is Back. Vote for Change. Blaming Neocons with BushW? Really, so Biden is a Republican Neocon too. Its Bipartisan. This is BIDEN, a Democrat. And by the way, who was against Trump - the Neocons. Its 2022, catch up. We need fundamental change in Wash DC - Both Parties need to go.
"As the Russia-Ukraine crisis heats up, we have no idea whether American leadership is telling the truth."
Truth is irrelevant to the regime. Only narrative and hidden policy goals matter. If a regime mouthpiece is talking, you should just assume they're lying.
Put Boot and Farkas at the tip of the spear in any conflict and see how fast they sue for peace.
Don't we have enough of our fathers, sons, brothers, uncles and grandfathers in national cemeteries? Don't we have enough men walking around without an arm or a leg to promote someone else's vision of 'freedom"?
The fact that the establishment has the hubris to beat the drums for another military conflict within half a year of disastrous route is depressing AF.
Policy goal or not, America has proved over the last 20 years that other than the First Gulf War, we never go in to win with a clear decisive victory with lasting impact. Oh trust me, we CAN...but....this is more to do with money than anything.
America goes to war in order to feed the industrial military complex, launder money to their friends who in turn grease the palms of the politicians and keep that teet flowing as long as possible no matter how many body bags are sent home and disabled vets return to be left for dead by the VA.
It has ZERO to do with a policy goal and more to do with how we now unable to conduct the entire operation and the lack of support for vets who come back from these wars.
We are in no position from any angle to get involved. It is the anvil that will finally sink America.
The Ukrainian / Russian conflict (war) is a US policy goal. The US has pushed for war to feed the gluttonous Military Industrial Complex. This has been true since the fall of the USSR. Truthfully before; the US has been meddling in Ukraine far longer though. The US backed the likes of nationalists Stepan A. Bandera enough to sow dissent and internal strife with the goal of destabilizing the USSR and then Russia.
The US has been expanding NATO often repurposing former Soviet bases in the process. The US does not care about its previous commitments. The US has no clear objectives. Nor does the US fully grasp the unique position Ukraine plays in Russian history.
In Russian and Ukrainian the name "Russian" (Русский and Російський) means "Rus of Kyiv". In many ways Kyiv is to Russia what Jerusalem is to Jews. Russian ties to Kyiv are not as overt as Jewish ties are to Jerusalem, but they are strong and powerful nonetheless and over 1000 years old. When Putin says there is no difference between the Russian and Ukrainian people it is not just hyperbole. Russian nationalism, starts with the founder of Kyiv and the Kievan Rus from the 9th Century. They have long ties to Ukraine. Russia does not see Ukraine the same as it sees other countries. Russia feels it is the guardian of Slavic culture or Viking/Slavic culture. This is especially true of Ukraine.
Russia has also stated since WWII, the next conflict will not be conventional. They know they cannot go toe-to-toe with the US in a kenetic war. Russia is prepared psychologically to go nuclear like few other countries. It has the means to do so like no other country. Also, revelations from former Soviets like Ken Alibek show the Russians have a large biological capability that they would use as well.
The US has cynically used Ukraine to get at Russia with little actual regard for Ukraine.
It doesn't matter that Russian aggression in Crimea and the Donbas have done more to forge a Ukrainian nationality than most other events since the Holodomor. It doesn't matter that Ukraine has a right to be a sovereign nation regardless of how Russia struggles with "mommy / daddy" issues with its identity. The US is not acting in Ukraine's interest nor with true appreciation for the fire it is playing with.
The combined greed, hubris, and ignorance leading the US to war is staggering. We should be using sophisticated, nuanced diplomacy instead of hamfisted caricatures little better than Rocky and Bullwinkle cutouts of Boris and Natasha to inform our policy back by naked greed.
The US needs to stay out of Ukraine especially in the way it has inserted itself over the decades since WWII and even more since the fall of the USSR. The US approach is going to open a hellfire no one wants.
Thank You Techno
NATO is unimportant in this scenario; Russia, the US, and they know that they are not willing, or even really capable, of dealing with Russia. Russia doesn't really want to get into armed conflict with the US, but is more capable of dealing with this situation if it comes to that than we are; their military is not a shell, with feckless and incompetent leadership, and an even less capable CinC.
The problem is that the dolts in State might not know or understand this, as they have continually showed how clueless they are, and how easily pushed around. Perhaps they think that this is their big chance to 'make their bones', or some such idiocy; that is what we (as a country) have been saddled with. It may even be that they are not trying to "poke the bear", but simply grandstand, and are not be smart enough to realize that Russia doesn't bluff much when they believe (rightly or not) that their security is being threatened.
To boot, this simply pushes Russia and China closer together, as if things weren't bad enough already. Let's not mention how aggressive China has been with the current resident of the White House regarding Taiwan; the master diplomat sure is showing his butt, and we will be the ones who pay for it, literally and figuratively...
smh
I do not see any real benefit from going to war over Ukraine which is not a NATO country. I do see that other NATO partners like Poland etc could see this as a test of the alliance’s will and their own security prospects. Plainly, Putin’s goal is to damage NATO over the long term. Also, China is watching all this as well. Each of these two ( Russia and China) see Biden as very weak. They could easily see this as a time of opportunity. So, the question for me is this a new domino theory or not?
Sorry, I believe Putin way before I believe one word our government has to say about anything. And I do mean ANYTHING! What a shame. I haven't believed them since Vietnam and 50,000 of our children died. And I've been right every single time. I don't believe them about 9/11 either. Our government was taken over by evil many decades ago.
A new war since viruganda lost steam
Will potentially be the downfall of the American regime
The usual cabal of war mongers keep pushing for a new war. -- any war is good enough for them. If these old white "movers and shakers" ever had to even take public transportation in NYC they would be shaking in their boots. They are cowards who think nothing of sending American kids to fight and die for their latest wrongheaded and criminal international adventure. Max Boot is a mentally disturbed faux Conservative who should be shunned and fired from his perch. The drumbeat for war is building and must be resisted at all costs.
Since Russia could never win a war with NATO and the U. S. a cornered Putin might launch a final nuclear attack before being dismantled. But all these "experts" scoff at the idea. WW I was started over one man killing a leader of a 2nd rate nation in Europe. If any leader could see the carnage and devastation that came with WW I I doubt anyone would have "declared war" on anyone.
Ukraine needs to come clean and in the sunlight provide evidence of what the Biden's activity in Ukraine was, what they did, who they worked with, who paid them, etc... then and only the should the USA think about helping them.
Helping Ukraine should involve sending arms, bombs, maybe some aviation assets - BUT NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND!
We've been at WAR for 24 Years. Its a Bipartisan Effort. America is in the Business of War. But who was putting a stop to it - Trump. And where is he, they drove him out of town on a rail. And now with Biden - War is Back. Vote for Change. Blaming Neocons with BushW? Really, so Biden is a Republican Neocon too. Its Bipartisan. This is BIDEN, a Democrat. And by the way, who was against Trump - the Neocons. Its 2022, catch up. We need fundamental change in Wash DC - Both Parties need to go.
I say let Russia and Ukraine work out their issues themselves.
War with Russia is part of the 16 year plan and would have been triggered by Killary. There is no reason to think that the plan has changed.
Ike warned America of the "Military Industrial Complex" on his way out the door. No one listened.