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Deb Nance's avatar

Does anyone else feel like we're living out a giant psy-op?

Forbes's avatar

There's an unreality to the above dialogue--a nonchalance in committing murder, taking someone else's life. As if Robinson and roommate live in a fantasy-fiction world where living and life hold no particular meaning or significance. Nihilism.

Lynn's avatar

Do they really expect us to believe that the messages were written by the shooter? You can tell that it was written too perfect. Another LIE!

Tatiana Prophet's avatar

I think you make a valid argument, but it’s still speculation. It’s amazing how much stereotyping figures into people’s hunches, and I’m not accusing you but I’m just saying that our whole society is wired to expect certain things from certain “types” of people. How do we know he wasn’t an avid reader who would have been the next William Faulkner if he hadn’t somehow seen violence as acceptable — or perhaps been groomed in chat rooms so far not detected — by who knows whom. Still, all we’ve got is our powers of observation when it comes to viewing available evidence.

Lynn's avatar

Right.....That's for sure. I'm sure being a journalist makes you look at things in a much different manner.

Michael Savage on his Savage Nation podcast explains that something is wrong with

the gun used.

Tatiana Prophet's avatar

I could see that being a valid observation as well. “Grandpa’s gun” really? Not to mention that initial reports right after it happened used the word “sniper,” and it has earmarks of a military operative, not someone who has gone hunting even if a good shot. OTOH, the scope may have given Robinson an advantage that made it a slam dunk with a lot of luck. Still, fishy. And … after reading these messages, I have to say my overall impression, on one hand, is almost that the details are overly contrived perhaps? When I have a feeling like that, I usually ask myself what details were NOT discussed, and whether the ones that were discussed push any sort of narrative that might benefit a certain message or outcome. It’s a very unsatisfying endeavor, as you’re working with a patchy glimpse of reality; and up to now, I’ve always expected that full reporting is so convoluted, and back room deals so common, that we would probably never get the full story (think JFK assassination). I must say, I’m even more uneasy now because I expect more from this DOJ. At this point, the levers of power are still at least partially held by operatives with no loyalty to the American people; so I find myself wondering if we will be disappointed again— or if eventually, we will learn something resembling the truth. It’s even less satisfying than the old paradigm when we already knew there was no chance in hell for transparency. Now I’m just kind of sick and exhausted.

What do you think?

Tex_968's avatar

Grandpa's gun was very common 50 years ago. Custom stock and fancy scope, check. I have one from back then that my Dad customized. He has another two. Don't expect in depth knowledge from any journalist. Expect it from qualified experts. Dad is a gunsmith btw. And that shot was cake for even a marginal marksman. That roof should have been covered. One guy with just binoculars even and Charlie is still alive.

Tatiana Prophet's avatar

I would never make a definitive comment without talking to an expert. I’m interested in what you have to say for sure.

That said, I owned a 9 mm at one time and have practiced shooting. Definitely not an expert, but I never made a definitive pronouncement about the gun either.

As a rule, I love to be educated by people who have more experience than me.

By the way, what do you think of this? A friend of mine was saying it doesn’t make any sense that he would leave fingerprints on the gun. But what I say is, how do we know that that was the gun actually used? We can say it came from the FBI, but it still needs to make sense. The text messages address the fingerprint issue, giving him a reason for having left them as he had not intended to leave the rifle behind because he had to change clothes. So he didn’t wear gloves because he was planning to take the rifle with him. That sounds like poor planning - well actually that kind of fits somebody who’s really young.

This tidbit honestly kind of bolsters my idea that the world messages are contrived. Then again, maybe you are irritated by people discussing different theories!

Lynn's avatar

I heard that there should have been more blood with that shot.

Michael Savage on Savage Nation explains the gun situation.

That there wasn't enough time to put the gun together and

take it apart that fast.

Tex_968's avatar

1) No.

2) The gun wasn't disassembled. The video on that is clear.

Lynn's avatar

I have been reading so many substacks on it. I feel exhausted myself. We still don't know what really happened in Butler, PA either. I read that there still are leftists imbedded in the FBI trying to sabotage Kash Patel, too. I heard

that Dan Bongino might be leaving? Thanks for your Indepth comments.

Tatiana Prophet's avatar

It really does help to share our thoughts. And I’m glad you mentioned interlopers at the FBI. I can only imagine how bad it is right now.

Lynn's avatar

Right...can only imagine how bad it is right now. Thank U for sharing your thoughts with me :-)

Tatiana Prophet's avatar

Thank you for your replies!

PS Tex: I’m not just a journalist, I seriously considered becoming an engineer and took the required courses concurrently with journalism during my freshman year. I wanted to be a science writer and in many ways I was. I’ve covered plane crashes, energy, water, business, crime, education and politics. Most of the time I was the only reporter in the newsroom who could calculate a percentage (!). I minored in economics. I’m a student of human nature and of history. I think everyone can evaluate an analysis on its own merit rather than just considering the source which is assumed to be a certain way.

Tex_968's avatar

Not been my experience with journalists covering the Oil business in the field. (Or even the USCG personnel assigned as our overseers in most cases.)

Exceptions prove the rule though.

Long Enough?'s avatar

He was a very bright kid. 4.0 in high school. Scored very high on the ACT. So proper English skills make sense.

Lynn's avatar

I still don't believe he wrote the txts' or that he was the shooter.

YellowRose's avatar

Yes he said “my vehicle.” Every kid I know says “ my car.” It sounded to me like an adult (over 22 yrs for sure) trying to sound like a 22 yr old.

Long Enough?'s avatar

In hindsight, I believe you are correct. They are just too perfect and… odd.

Lynn's avatar

Yes....that's how I read it.

Tatiana Prophet's avatar

I’m inclined to think he was a patsy as per usual; and if involved, it was a whole operation because that is almost always how it goes — like with Sirhan Sirhan, who doesn’t even remember doing it— even though we have had to read between the lines up till now — we can still figure out a lot. But I’m beyond sick and tired of dealing with this type of bullshit. At least nowadays, a much greater percentage of people know that the official story is a waste of time. I’m just gonna see what gets called a “conspiracy theory” by the mockingbird media, and then use it as a lead to pursue. It’s sad that this

method is so effective. But until government control of media is finally released, it’s the best way to figure things out.

Lena's avatar

This isn’t how 22 year olds text. Referring to his car as his “vehicle”? Something’s not right here.

Jacquie7's avatar

He had a 4.0 GPA. I did not know all 22 year olds text the same.

Lena's avatar

Where did I say they all text the same way? I interact with tons of smart young people and this isn’t how they text AT ALL.

YellowRose's avatar

Yes! Thats exactly what I noticed immediately. It sounded like an adult (LEO) trying to sound like a 22 yr old. They don’t say “my vehicle!”

Matthew's avatar

This is exactly right. It reads like a bad-guy script from Matlock or Murder She Wrote. Not saying he didn't write the words, but seriously this is not how these dudes talk via chat. Let's use clear topic sentences on Discord!!

KEK's avatar

What 22y/o guy uses the word “lingering” much less in a text. Total BS who wrote those. A Set up for reasonable doubt

Eric W's avatar

mormons are more decuated than nogs bro. Book of Mormon has all them thar fancy words up in thar.

Ricardo Montalvo's avatar

i would have. was once mocked in my 20s because I said 'perhaps'

Brad's avatar

these text exchanges have got to be pre-planned as a way of removing suspicion from the boyfriend. Too many people in the trans community knew about this shooting beforehand for the trans boyfriend not to know. It's impossible.

Slightly Lucid's avatar

“Too many people in the trans community knew…” The fuck are you talking about?

Lillia Gajewski's avatar

Or they were faked afterward someone to pin this on him because they desperately need a suspect after Patel made a fool of himself and Trump promised a head? Just kind of throwing that out there. But I suppose it's no weirder than the teleporting gun.

John Kristianson's avatar

Gay man here, and I hope that they (The State of Utah) throw the book at this person. And if his lover was involved, hopefully he will end up incarcerated with his partner (or if the gods are with us, they will both get the death penalty). I am not MAGA, but I did grow up in an era when you could discuss political differences and when you were done, you could go out for a beer with the person who you disagreed with.

Not any more. Civil discourse is gone. The only thing left is shouting (if you are lucky) or a bullet (if you are not). As the two sides distance themselves from each other's humanity, they vilify the other side and bask in their own self-righteousness. Very sad day for America

Eric W's avatar

ABC News said these messages are "touching."

Forbes's avatar

Well, that's barf-inducing.

Lillia Gajewski's avatar

So they refer to him as "the roommate" when Robinson says "my love." You're telling me they had that note and it took them a full day to "figure out" he was the boyfriend? And why would someone take a photo of a note they then destroyed? If the roommate/boyfriend wanted evidence, why didn't he hang onto the note?

Well, that and all the other comments on here. We're really just going to swallow this story about trans furry jihadis running around Utah with magic teleporting guns?

This story sounds like it's being made up as it goes along.

J. Gan.'s avatar

The real shooter is shown here, with several accomplices and the weapon. No bolt action rifle was used. The wound is too small, and lack of arterial spraying. Watch carefully. The kid is a patsy 100%.

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1ZkKzZakMqdKv

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I don't believe in conspiracy theories, only facts.

Lynn's avatar

Well, then don't believe what our government is telling us. Go and watch

Michael Savage, Savage Nation. His podcast will explain the gun situation.

What they are feeding us is a LIE.

Candis's avatar

Is that why you restacked the piece about Epstein creating Covid19 lol facts?

James David's avatar

So what is this moron smoking and why isn't he sharing?

J. Gan.'s avatar

Unleash the "sayanim" then?? If there is no "conspiracy theory" mr leftie, then what is there? Another lone nut?

The hand signalers are in on it, which makes it more than one person, conspiring to commit murder in broad daylight and get away with it. And so far, they have. They (FBI) will never show ballistics nor will they produce a bullet. We have no proof this kid spent one hour on a shooting range. His family's social media has been scrubbed.

James David's avatar

No... We have seen the media pre-scrub.

You would never find a slug in this situation. It won't stop in the target or even the county...

J. Gan.'s avatar

Bullet slugs do not dissolve sir. Physics disagrees here.

subo's avatar

It all doesn't make sense, including the conversation.

Lynn's avatar

I knew the guy in the white shirt and cell phone was in on it. Just like the guy in the black top showing hand signals. Someone in the military told me those were sniper signals.

sadie's avatar

The guy in white shirt touching his hat is a long time friend and mentor, Frank Turek. This per a friend of his on Instagram so take it as you may... no word on the guy in brown behind him but should have been security?.... sadly, everything is suspect.

Lynn's avatar

I'm talking about the man in the white hat with the iPhone. Why was he filming or taking pictures at the same time as Charlie was hit. Unfortunately, you hear sometimes these business friends can't be trusted?

sadie's avatar

Did you watch the video J.Gan posted just above? Looks more probable than a shot from a roof but.... who knows..

Lynn's avatar

No......I'll check it out....Thanks

Daniel Wagner - #Phobeismist's avatar

Gtfo of here with this uneducated BS.

sadie's avatar

This looks more probable than anything I've seen so far. The only thing off to me is the angle. That would have been an exit wound at the front so the entrance would have to have been on the right and I don't see one... Anyone here know about gun sounds? Does that sound like smaller caliber?

Also... we have so much facial recognition software... surely someone can run that through a program to identify those 2? Can you ask for a match on FB, Tiktok, IG?

Jacquie7's avatar

I am pretty sure they already matched the rifle, ammo that was used.

J. Gan.'s avatar

The FBI told the media it was a bolt action rifle within 3 hours of the shooting, that is not enough time for a full ballistics review. Their words, literally betray them here,.

Brad's avatar

why is the so-called patsy still alive then?

Lynn's avatar

So far. But, time will tell.

James David's avatar

I think you are a tranny liar.

J. Gan.'s avatar

Name calling, fighting and division is exactly what the DS Machiavellians pushing this agenda of trans shooters wants. It is 100% misdirection,. Look up on the building, at the running man in black with no rifle at all and no time to break it down from the time stamps. Those hand signalers are his security detail and one of them was in Butler, PA with POTUS DJT, go figure!

James David's avatar

So you are saying CIA in so many words...

You can't break down that type of rifle. They are sweat fit together. So you are saying the rifle is a plant and some other weapon was used.

And all the rest is a construct.

That's about as convoluted as claiming there is a god.

J. Gan.'s avatar

Not long ago, a certain country placed bombs in pagers in Lebanon. If I had suggested that here, before it was done, people like you would be all over me, saying No Effing Way. Sorry, but if you did not watch the video and see the shooter and the clear, but faint, puff of smoke coming off him as he fires the shot, it is literally laid out clearly and visibly. There has not been any positive ID of the "bolt action" weapon, tying it ballistically to the shooting. I repeat, this FBI does not work for us, it works for "the corporation".

beth02's avatar

So the two out of town cars (that the neighbors reported seeing weeks before the shooting) were just out of town friends visiting for a fun time ?

Phoenix's avatar

This text conversation seems very manufactured!

John Guy's avatar

Here is another viewpoint -- Charlie Kirk Murder Weapon Revealed And How The Brown Shirt Man (Professional Assassin) Killed Him...

Here is the video for you to examine: Now you know why they took the camera from Mr. Kirk's tent within 5 minutes...it was pointing at the shooter.

https://rense.com/general98/31fcdec5-8f27-4688-a665-446ec6e3f5b5.mp4

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The crime scene was tampered with within five minutes of the shooting.

Two men caught TAMPERING with evidence after Charlie Kirk's shooting

Footage is here at the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvtTIW_MDyY

How could the crime scene not be secured by the police immediately?

Full un-cut recording from today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y10B2GUMiD0

********************

Private Jet That Took Off From Utah After Charlie Kirk Assassination Disappears Mid-Flight Sparking Suspicion

"Initially, X (Twitter) users expressed concern about the continued function of Provo Airport, which is a 15-minute drive away from the UVU campus, as the shooter could potentially use it to escape.

One of them, @stellarman22 wrote "A private jet under the tail number N888KG left Provo Airport an hour after the shooting... Suspiciously 30 mins into the flight it drops off of ADS-B illegally and reappears headed back to Provo approx. an hour later... Why did this plane turn off its radar? Where is the shooter?"

https://www.latintimes.com/private-jet-that-took-off-utah-after-charlie-kirk-assassination-disappears-mid-flight-sparking-589463

John Guy's avatar

Part 2:

Sequence Of Events...

1. The Brown Shirt Man Is Just Casually Standing Behind The Barrier In Front Of Charlie...With His Left Arm Straight Out And Laying On The Top Horizontal Bar Of The People Barrier. He Is Watching Charlie And Not The Crowd Behind. A Security Team Member Would never Turn His Back To The People Behind Him Which He Is Supposed To Be Surveilling. He Is Partially Turned To His Right And Is Not Facing Charlie Straight On. This Is To Better Cover What Is About To Happen.

2. The Brown Shirt Killer Then Brings His Right Hand Forward With The Palm Pistol In Position. He Moves His Hand To Below And In Front Of His Left Shoulder And Just Behind His Bicep.

3. The Tiny Barrel Is Just Barely Visible In A Shadow Between His Two Middle Fingers. You Can See The Opening.

4. He Quickly Aims And Fires The Deadly Round Without Any Hesitation. He Is Actually SMILING While He Kills Charlie.

5. Immediately After The Shot, He Pulls His Right Hand Down And Back From His Firing Position...And Just Puts The Little Gun Back In His Right Side Pocket.

6. In One Fluid Move, He Brings His Now Empty Right Hand Forward And Places It On The Top Of The Barrier. Then, With Both Hands, He Vaults Right Over The Barrier To ‘Help' Carry Charlie To The SUV Out Back. This Assures The Brown Shirt Man’s Escape In The SUV...Which Also Permits Him To Search For The Bullet.

7. Remember, There Is No Paramedic EMT Ambulance On Site. That Alone Is One Of Many Outrageous Parts Of The Sophisticated, Brutal Plot To Kill Charlie Kirk.

Slick McFavorite's avatar

I’d like you to think about how insanely difficult a shot like that would be from that stance with a tiny pistol. Not buying the official story either but his doesn’t seem plausible at all.

John Guy's avatar

It was an advanced pistol with a pinhole camera with cross hairs that fed a virtual image to his sunglasses. Plus, the shooter is a professional unlike the furry Pasty wearing all black on a white building and white roof. The shooter took advantage of the fact that the hand is quicker than the eye and no one was paying attention to him. The only things they could not control were the cell phones and video equipment.

John Guy's avatar

Tech had advance a lot over time.

Google- NVIDA Flex Simulator 2015.

This video show how you can use contact lens.

The fake NASA ISS interior - a technical breakdown by Mike Helmick -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJhL7y0ahUE&list=PLltxIX4B8_UT4qSV8ENCnqPvReRKt3FmF&index=4

Howard H Wemple's avatar

BULLSHIT!!!

They are trying "the lone gunman" lie again!!! That kid COULD NOT put the rifle back together & sight it in PERFECTLY in the time frame they told us. Also the "texts" were done before the shooting! NOBODY talks like that after murdering one of the most famous people in the world and knowing he was either going to die or be arrested & die later!!!

Daniel Wagner - #Phobeismist's avatar

Edit: Not long "before" the shooting.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

It would seem to be AFTER the shooting that the texts were exchanged.

Grace's avatar

Thank you. I was just going to call attention to the error. PROOFREAD! lol

AvH's avatar

I have serious doubts those are real messages. No one that age texts like that …with those types of phrases. Totally sus.

GardenH03's avatar

I believe there are more persons involved in this “hit”. And it is truly scary to witness how this so-called “tolerance-spewing” faction has zero tolerance for anyone professing another idea or opinion.