Bongino is offering to have her on. She should take him up on the offer and make her case. He'll be fair and the topic can't be covered in depth the way it needs to be in a 7 min TV spot.
Well done to both you and SWC for these insights. Clearly, the issue is a visceral one for conservatives (and liberals). For conservatives, I would encourage one to consider Noem's position by asking the question- do you want to fight a battle (on principle) and LOSE with disastrous consequences, or do you want to find a way to fight another day (again, on principle) and WIN THE WAR?
As a non-lawyer, perhaps I have too much common sense, so don't see the 'problems' that are claimed to be in the law.
Point 1: I expect that as small as the numbers are of transgender females competing in girls sports is, that number completely dwarfs that of transgender boys doing the same. Even if the number were the same, or higher, it would still not be an issue. Truthfully, they would be at a competitive DISADVANTAGE, so would not be facing injury nor losing competitions nor positions on teams. The BEST argument would be that they, not being physically the same, would need protections, but that is a fail; every boy who is small, slow, or not physically gifted could make the same (illogical) argument.
Point 2: I can see some merit in this, yet it is not why it was sent back for revision; I don't believe it was even mentioned, and certainly not as a significant reason.
Point 3: as there is already a legal definition of the phrase 'reasonable cause', I expect that if it is included in a law, that same definition would, by definition (heh), apply. The wording could be clarified to declare that the meaning (as I read it) as misinformation regarding whether or not the individual is being truthful regarding their biological, not preferred, sex.
While they could be argued, I'd argue that doing so is just wasting the time of the judiciary, although that seems to be something of a favorite pastime nowadays, and acceptable to the same judiciary; many seem eager to place their imprimatur on the law, rather than doing their job. But before even forcing the hand(s) of the legislature, it would be much easier to make small clarifications, rather than calling to pretty much gut the law, and pretending to be in the forefront of 'doing something', which Noem is not; the organization/coalition that she wants to start already exists, in more than one form.
Instead, she appears to be trying to use this as a springboard for her political ambitions, straddling the fence to appeal to as many as possible. Unfortunately, it is apparently doing the opposite, cementing those on the left against her, and many of her former, or potential, supporters now disillusioned, or outright angry, at her significant change in direction and tone.
This article doesn’t clarify a dang thing. It doesn’t help Noem escape her actual dislike of conservative principles and those who espouse them. Neither does it help with a wildly convoluted job by the author to criticize logically.
This is all a hot mess and leaves the field to the transgenders who want to ‘change’ to a female to score easier athletic victories than against males.
I just subscribed, so am late to the thread. A larger issue here seems to be the apparent lack of good conservative legal talent to fight against the massive progressive legal army which always seems to get its way. I’m sure there are many reasons, some of which have less to do with quality of legal talent and more with the cycles of conservative vs progressive judges on the court (we are living through the Obama judges cycle at the moment). But just to cite the most recent example: it was apparent early on in the 2020 election campaign that our friend from Steele dossier days, Marc Elias, was litigating the voting laws in various states to favour looser verification standards. How come there wasn’t a conservative Marc Elias fighting against the progressive Elias with equal talent?
The communists see their chance to ruin her over this she scares the living S.... out of them.She is a conservative and a woman and not what one would call ugly and she makes sense that scares them.It has gotten so what is right is wrong and wrong is right and she knows the difference and they hate that.
This is about the courage of conviction for conservatives which republicans never seem to have when it comes to our cultural values and norms. Noem had a chance to take a stand and help shape a national issue which her state heavily supported. Playing on that, she even marketed her commitment by stating that she was “excited to sign” the bill. Other republican governors have had no reservations signing state bills to the same effect, Arkansas being the latest. When we conservatives see this can be done and is being done elsewhere by republicans without the same fame and popularity, it begs the question—especially when we hear how organizations that culturally oppose us have more access and influence on her decision-making. The optics are bad because they can’t be hidden or downplayed to a now hyper-vigilant conservative base. President Trump showed us that the culture war can be fought—and must be fought. Politics is downstream from that.
Well she was just getting too damned popular they were even talking about how she might even run for president can't have that a woman no less and from the right wing South Dakota bunch.No way no how they have to take her down and that is what they are doing.One of these days these S>O>B> are going to go to far.Damned communist democrat bastards.
The NCAA's "medical experts" have concluded that transformed biological males present no competitive advantage to biological females. There it is, no room for disagreement on facts when the experts have spoken. If anyone believes those experts, then those people need to re-visit biology 101.
The lawyers who wrote the law bamboozled her. The "legal scholars" who she took advice from lied to her, and she didn't listen to her gut and sign the bill - as bad as it was.
She would be the 2024 nominee - at least for VP - by now if she had said, "The lawyers have messed up this bill, the legal scholars have tried to talk me out of signing it, but my gut tells me signing it is the right thing to do. Bring it on NCAA, bring on the lawsuits. The concept of right and the American people are on my side, and saving our girls is worth the fight."
Stop devouring Kristi Noem. She is a star of the Republican party and one of our best hopes for the future. She is deeply conservative and I do not doubt her principles, regardless of her reasons not to sign this law as is. Ganging up on her is not productive for Republicans. “Our way or the highway” is a road straight to communist hell.
This article doesn’t clarify a dang thing. It doesn’t help Noem escape her actual dislike of conservative principles and those who espouse them. Neither does it help with a wildly convoluted job by the author to criticize logically.
This is all a hot mess and leaves the field to the transgenders who want to ‘change’ to a female to score easier athletic victories than against males.
IMHO, the whole multi transgender topic is just another political wedge designed to divide the American people. This is America. If 'transgenders' feel so left out, why don't they create their own Olympics, their own schools, their own sports teams, their own libraries, cities, etc.?
Bongino is offering to have her on. She should take him up on the offer and make her case. He'll be fair and the topic can't be covered in depth the way it needs to be in a 7 min TV spot.
I was a teacher for 15 years, and I mentored/supervised student and new teachers, so I I think that I say this with authority:
You are a gifted teacher. I hope that you teach, or plan to teach, a class or two because you have a gift for educating.
Well done to both you and SWC for these insights. Clearly, the issue is a visceral one for conservatives (and liberals). For conservatives, I would encourage one to consider Noem's position by asking the question- do you want to fight a battle (on principle) and LOSE with disastrous consequences, or do you want to find a way to fight another day (again, on principle) and WIN THE WAR?
Wow. I didn't even know this had gone off the rails. Thank you for the break down.
As a non-lawyer, perhaps I have too much common sense, so don't see the 'problems' that are claimed to be in the law.
Point 1: I expect that as small as the numbers are of transgender females competing in girls sports is, that number completely dwarfs that of transgender boys doing the same. Even if the number were the same, or higher, it would still not be an issue. Truthfully, they would be at a competitive DISADVANTAGE, so would not be facing injury nor losing competitions nor positions on teams. The BEST argument would be that they, not being physically the same, would need protections, but that is a fail; every boy who is small, slow, or not physically gifted could make the same (illogical) argument.
Point 2: I can see some merit in this, yet it is not why it was sent back for revision; I don't believe it was even mentioned, and certainly not as a significant reason.
Point 3: as there is already a legal definition of the phrase 'reasonable cause', I expect that if it is included in a law, that same definition would, by definition (heh), apply. The wording could be clarified to declare that the meaning (as I read it) as misinformation regarding whether or not the individual is being truthful regarding their biological, not preferred, sex.
While they could be argued, I'd argue that doing so is just wasting the time of the judiciary, although that seems to be something of a favorite pastime nowadays, and acceptable to the same judiciary; many seem eager to place their imprimatur on the law, rather than doing their job. But before even forcing the hand(s) of the legislature, it would be much easier to make small clarifications, rather than calling to pretty much gut the law, and pretending to be in the forefront of 'doing something', which Noem is not; the organization/coalition that she wants to start already exists, in more than one form.
Instead, she appears to be trying to use this as a springboard for her political ambitions, straddling the fence to appeal to as many as possible. Unfortunately, it is apparently doing the opposite, cementing those on the left against her, and many of her former, or potential, supporters now disillusioned, or outright angry, at her significant change in direction and tone.
This article doesn’t clarify a dang thing. It doesn’t help Noem escape her actual dislike of conservative principles and those who espouse them. Neither does it help with a wildly convoluted job by the author to criticize logically.
This is all a hot mess and leaves the field to the transgenders who want to ‘change’ to a female to score easier athletic victories than against males.
I just subscribed, so am late to the thread. A larger issue here seems to be the apparent lack of good conservative legal talent to fight against the massive progressive legal army which always seems to get its way. I’m sure there are many reasons, some of which have less to do with quality of legal talent and more with the cycles of conservative vs progressive judges on the court (we are living through the Obama judges cycle at the moment). But just to cite the most recent example: it was apparent early on in the 2020 election campaign that our friend from Steele dossier days, Marc Elias, was litigating the voting laws in various states to favour looser verification standards. How come there wasn’t a conservative Marc Elias fighting against the progressive Elias with equal talent?
The communists see their chance to ruin her over this she scares the living S.... out of them.She is a conservative and a woman and not what one would call ugly and she makes sense that scares them.It has gotten so what is right is wrong and wrong is right and she knows the difference and they hate that.
This is about the courage of conviction for conservatives which republicans never seem to have when it comes to our cultural values and norms. Noem had a chance to take a stand and help shape a national issue which her state heavily supported. Playing on that, she even marketed her commitment by stating that she was “excited to sign” the bill. Other republican governors have had no reservations signing state bills to the same effect, Arkansas being the latest. When we conservatives see this can be done and is being done elsewhere by republicans without the same fame and popularity, it begs the question—especially when we hear how organizations that culturally oppose us have more access and influence on her decision-making. The optics are bad because they can’t be hidden or downplayed to a now hyper-vigilant conservative base. President Trump showed us that the culture war can be fought—and must be fought. Politics is downstream from that.
Well she was just getting too damned popular they were even talking about how she might even run for president can't have that a woman no less and from the right wing South Dakota bunch.No way no how they have to take her down and that is what they are doing.One of these days these S>O>B> are going to go to far.Damned communist democrat bastards.
Poof, just like that her career is over.
The NCAA's "medical experts" have concluded that transformed biological males present no competitive advantage to biological females. There it is, no room for disagreement on facts when the experts have spoken. If anyone believes those experts, then those people need to re-visit biology 101.
The lawyers who wrote the law bamboozled her. The "legal scholars" who she took advice from lied to her, and she didn't listen to her gut and sign the bill - as bad as it was.
She would be the 2024 nominee - at least for VP - by now if she had said, "The lawyers have messed up this bill, the legal scholars have tried to talk me out of signing it, but my gut tells me signing it is the right thing to do. Bring it on NCAA, bring on the lawsuits. The concept of right and the American people are on my side, and saving our girls is worth the fight."
Stop devouring Kristi Noem. She is a star of the Republican party and one of our best hopes for the future. She is deeply conservative and I do not doubt her principles, regardless of her reasons not to sign this law as is. Ganging up on her is not productive for Republicans. “Our way or the highway” is a road straight to communist hell.
This article doesn’t clarify a dang thing. It doesn’t help Noem escape her actual dislike of conservative principles and those who espouse them. Neither does it help with a wildly convoluted job by the author to criticize logically.
This is all a hot mess and leaves the field to the transgenders who want to ‘change’ to a female to score easier athletic victories than against males.
IMHO, the whole multi transgender topic is just another political wedge designed to divide the American people. This is America. If 'transgenders' feel so left out, why don't they create their own Olympics, their own schools, their own sports teams, their own libraries, cities, etc.?